Eratosphere Forums - Metrical Poetry, Free Verse, Fiction, Art, Critique, Discussions Able Muse - a review of poetry, prose and art

Forum Left Top

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Unread 11-06-2015, 10:20 AM
Douglas Basford Douglas Basford is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 80
Default Unsplendid's poem-password challenge!

Hi all,

Maybe you've seen it: some researchers at USC have argued that iambic tetrameter passwords are not only easy to remember due to their rhythmic character but also practically unbreakable. They have a computer generating couplets that could do well, and suggest that humans would be better off coming up with their own, as a randomizing algorithm could be cracked by another algorithm. So here's our challenge to you: send us your passwords! No, really. Below are supposedly computer-generated passwords. Humans--let's outdo 'em! Post your best unguessable iambic tetrameter rhymed couplet passwords to #iambsafe via Facebook or Twitter, or if you prefer email them to editor@unsplendid.com. We'll consider the best of the best for publication in the upcoming issue of Unsplendid! Deadline: Nov. 18! We're hoping to make this a regular sort of thing...

Cheers,
Doug

Sophisticated potentates
misrepresenting Emirates
___________

The shirley emmy plebiscite
complete suppressed unlike invite
___________

Incited coolly nationwide
and also shipping countryside
___________

Imperial recruit complain
the diamonds area remain
___________

The lurid marginal dismay
or pleasure stealing anyway

See:
http://www.businessinsider.com/resea...poetry-2015-10
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...y-to-remember/

Last edited by Douglas Basford; 11-09-2015 at 10:53 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Unread 11-06-2015, 10:34 AM
Esther Murer Esther Murer is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 308
Default

I'll see what I can do about it, Doug, but it would take some ingenuity with some sites that require numbers & more.

Last edited by Esther Murer; 11-06-2015 at 10:39 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Unread 11-06-2015, 10:39 AM
Douglas Basford Douglas Basford is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 80
Default

Hi Esther,

However it is you want to go with it! The only rule: iambic tetrameter rhyming couplet...

All best,
D
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Unread 11-18-2015, 06:48 PM
Douglas Basford Douglas Basford is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 80
Default

a little bump up!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Unread 11-18-2015, 08:19 PM
W.F. Lantry's Avatar
W.F. Lantry W.F. Lantry is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Inside the Beltway
Posts: 4,057
Default

When's the deadline again?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Unread 11-20-2015, 07:13 AM
Roger Slater Roger Slater is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New York
Posts: 16,499
Default

I saw that article, but I couldn't quite understand the premise. Obviously it doesn't matter if the password rhymes or is metrical, except as a memory aid, but surely there are equally long prose phrases that are easy to memorize. Something mundane like "Yesterday I left my keys on the dining room table" should be just as strong a password and not at all difficult to memorize, no?*

Esther, you can just come up with your couplet and routinely add, say, the number 9 at the end. And for sites that require at least one capital letter, you can routinely start your couplet with a capital letter.

*I tested this password here and confirm that it is 100% safe. Using that site to experiment, I found that the use of at least one capital letter makes a wide variety of phrases into perfect passwords. And if you slap a single number on the end, you can use notably shorter phrases to achieve that result.

Last edited by Roger Slater; 11-20-2015 at 08:04 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Unread 11-21-2015, 05:18 AM
Brian Allgar Brian Allgar is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Paris, France
Posts: 5,398
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Slater View Post
You can just come up with your couplet and routinely add, say, the number 9 at the end. And for sites that require at least one capital letter, you can routinely start your couplet with a capital letter.
Or you can build the capital letters and numbers into the couplet:

In 1756, the birth
of Mozart, wonder of the earth.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Unread 11-21-2015, 06:23 AM
Roger Slater Roger Slater is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: New York
Posts: 16,499
Default

Brian, if you stop with "birth" in your example, the site I linked to gives the password a 100% security rating. To me this suggests one can use the couplets as a mnemonic device, but for simplicity sake it's often only necessary to use the first line of the couplet.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Unread 11-22-2015, 10:05 AM
Esther Murer Esther Murer is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 308
Default

Yes, I agree that a whole couplet is much too long. But we can play the game.... I came up with a five-letter word which, rendered in html, reads as a rhymed IT couplet.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



Forum Right Top
Forum Left Bottom Forum Right Bottom
 
Right Left
Member Login
Forgot password?
Forum LeftForum Right


Forum Statistics:
Forum Members: 8,404
Total Threads: 21,899
Total Posts: 271,485
There are 5232 users
currently browsing forums.
Forum LeftForum Right


Forum Sponsor:
Donate & Support Able Muse / Eratosphere
Forum LeftForum Right
Right Right
Right Bottom Left Right Bottom Right

Hosted by ApplauZ Online