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03-06-2015, 09:47 PM
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Nimoy
Well, he wasn't much of a poet, to be sure, but he sure was a helluva character actor. I'm kind of surprised I've seen no notice here. Spock was an icon for a generation, or two.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/27/ar...ref=obituaries
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03-06-2015, 09:55 PM
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Or did I just miss a lot while I was out of town?
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03-06-2015, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by R. S. Gwynn
Well, he wasn't much of a poet, to be sure, but he sure was a helluva character actor.
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And he had some good poetry written about him.
http://www.14by14.com/Issue10/LovingMrSpock.html
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03-06-2015, 11:59 PM
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Last summer I read Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan - A Novel by Vonda N. McIntyre.
Then I saw the film of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home, which I thought was great.
I have Susan’s book The Whetstone Misses the Knife, and “Loving Mr. Spock” is one of my favorites.
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03-07-2015, 01:18 PM
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I admired Leonard Nimoy. Very much. His Spock is certainly one of the great and memorable characters in TV and film.
Nimoy was also wonderful in the one-man play Vincent, in which he portrayed van Gogh’s brother Theo. The film version of the play, if I remember correctly, was taped at the famous Guthrie Theater here in Minnesota.
Nimoy was a fine actor, and by all accounts he was an admirable and talented man.
I believe this thread is the first notice of Nimoy on the Sphere since his recent death.
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03-07-2015, 02:30 PM
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Not really, as you see from Susan's poem I also wrote one though it has not yet been for anyone (except Susan, that is).
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03-07-2015, 09:23 PM
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03-07-2015, 11:11 PM
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To have created one immortal character is high praise for any actor. Spock would not have been so compelling if Nimoy had not managed to bring a doubleness to the character, a sense of an inner being at odds with his outward demeanor, and a tragic awareness of being an outsider to any group he is a part of. As a teenager, I could not have explained why I connected with the character of Spock, but clearly I was not the only one who did so.
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03-08-2015, 03:12 AM
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I never thought of his having a tragic awareness, rather a puzzled incomprehension of situations that ought to make sense, but didn't. Because Humans don't.
Spock was a beautiful contribution to the awareness of autism. Take him off the star-ship and put him in the classroom and see what you get.
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03-08-2015, 07:12 AM
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When Spock said, “Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few,” that was actually an illogical statement on his part!
Here’s a very interesting article about that phrase and logic:
https://www.theobjectivestandard.com...ds-of-the-few/
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With the Enterprise (ship) in imminent danger of destruction, Spock enters a highly radioactive chamber in order to fix the ship’s drive so the crew can escape danger. Spock quickly perishes, and, with his final breaths, says to Kirk, “Don’t grieve, Admiral. It is logical. The needs of the many outweigh . . .” Kirk finishes for him, “The needs of the few.” Spock replies, “Or the one.”
In the next film, The Search for Spock (1984), the crew of the Enterprise discovers that Spock is not actually dead, that his body and soul survive separately, and that it may be possible to rejoin them—which the crew proceeds to do. Once restored, Spock asks Kirk why the crew saved him. Kirk answers, “Because the needs of the one outweigh the needs of the many.” This is, as Spock might say, a fascinating reversal of the message in the previous film.
How can these ideas be reconciled?
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