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07-16-2014, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jayne Osborn
FOUR HUNDRED sonnets, Shaun? Heck, I need to go and lie down in a darkened room. (Call myself a poet? )
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Hey, I didn't say they were good sonnets!
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I'm with you on "Flarf'', and this entry on Wikipaedia made me want to lie down AND go and seek the help of a psychiatrist:
If both (conceptual poetry and flarf) are compelled by what we might term impoetic language, flarf seems interested in discovering the poetic within that field, finding the excess and alterity that once defined poetic language but now must be found elsewhere, within the circuits of ersatz fame and junkspeech, within the anonymized and reshuffled errancies of various machinic protocols (whether it is the Google search algorithm, or a purported human adapting herself to the imperatives of a virtual chatroom.
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Yes. Exactly. I'm always annoyed when people who should probably know better are determined to find meaning in meaninglessness. Intellectualism is always most pretentious when it's misplaced.
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07-16-2014, 04:57 PM
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John:
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I've just spent all day writing a sonnet full of German words. I don't know any German. Or I THOUGHT I didn't.
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Shaun:
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I'm sure it's full of schadenfreude over the sturm und drang amid this zeitgeist.
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Knowing John, it will be uber good and won't be kitsch, so there's no need for angst about it, but if it turns out to be rubbish he can always blame it on his doppelganger.
Jayne
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07-17-2014, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by John Whitworth
I've just spent all day writing a sonnet full of German words. I don't know any German. Or I THOUGHT I didn't.
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The German word for world is "welt," isn't it? I hope that fits in somewhere.
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07-17-2014, 08:10 AM
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Ich werde meinen Mantel bekommen.
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07-18-2014, 03:04 AM
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Gone macaronic, John? Exciting. Remember its Welt as German is still in the 18th century over capitalising nouns.
Last edited by Jerome Betts; 07-18-2014 at 03:05 AM.
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07-20-2014, 05:37 PM
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I have written a few sonnets, but not one has to do with love. That said, I have found love in my life. Maybe I will write love sonnets one of these days.
A sonnet I wrote 12-13 years ago, and one I wouldn't care for today had lines that rhymed wharf, surf, turf, etc. I wish I had known about "flarf" back then!
But thanks for posting, the chart is hilarious.
But I would not ridicule the folks who write limericks. Writing limericks is harder than it appears to be.
Cheers.
Paddy
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