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I have alluded to this occasionally, to illustrate the bonding power of shared allusion along with its capacity to exclude, like thieves' cant.

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I really should have picked up on this. Borges has some interesting things to say about language in Tlon, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius. Among other things he imagines a language without nouns. 'Upward, behind the onstreaming, it mooned' is its version of 'the moon rose above the river'. I had thought of writing a poem in that language but, since Borges never attempted, I thought it would be too hard.

My reasons for hating the EU are entirely poetic. A world where such people were in charge is not a world I want to live in. Economics and such are entirely irrelevant.

I did write a poem in thieves cant but I can't remember which book it's in.

Milton expeted his audience (fit audence though few) would pick up his allusions. He was not writing for ignorant students though they existed in his day as they do now. I generally write littlenotes if I think the allusion is at all recondite. Presumably something like 'Perchance to dream' is generally known. Or perhaps not.

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I suffer from too much, whaddya call it, inertia to do straightforward allusions. More usually I try to scream past a hot and flowering reference so fast that no one gets the sense of the original but may -- I hope -- catch some of its glint and dizzying perfume, as with a Turner painting that contemplates the hushing of waves after a world-changing storm that has passed and we hope not to see again. Or I could just name the Japanese Imperial original author -- but that's the kind of finger-pointing I seldom do. Or else I do an anti-allusion, piling Bismarck on Melisande to out-stretch a hackneyed (if sublime) original with frogs croaking wetly at night in Eden.
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