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Unread 05-10-2008, 03:03 AM
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This was an unsuccessful entry to a Spectator Competition but it nly went as far as P. I've taken it up to Z as you see. Is there a word for this kind of thing? Do Eratosphereans have anything similar they would like to share. Of course if you can make this a better example of what it is obviously supposed to be, pitch right in there. I dont think much of the title. Surely someone can think of a better one, Is the stuff about Venice Lido still true? Is it still there? Is there a gay culture in, say, Venezuala?

An A-Z of Modern Mores

Aloysius can’t afford his
Bloody Bentley any more:
Country cottages he purchased
Down in Devon hit the floor.

Every time he checks the numbers –
Falling prices down the list:
‘God in Heaven, Iolanthe
How on earth can we exist?’

Iolanthe hocks her wardrobe,
Just a teeny bit upset:
Kamikaze Aloysius
Lets his wife run into debt!

Mummy told her, yes she told her!
Now it’s really come to pass:
Over-reaching Aloysius,
Paralytic on his arse!

Quentin Rufus (that’s their firstborn)
Rolls his eyes and tears his hair.
Silly Daddy! Silly Mummy!
Time to ditch the silly pair.

Uncle Ferdy, that’s the answer.
Venice Lido, that’s the spot,
Where a chap can make a packet,
X-rate sex, extremely hot!

Youth is on his side, I guess.
Zeitgeist issues – what a mess!
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John,

This is a lot of fun. I can only offer some geographical help in answer to your question. Venice Lido is now a rather staidly respectable suburb of the city; I go there occasionally to shop in its supermarkets. It really comes to life only in the summer months as Venetians trek to their beach-cabins - and its only moment of anything like glamour is in September, when it hosts the Venice film festival. There used to be a Casino, but that closed down a few years back. I've been told there is a discreet gay scene in the woods at the southern end of the Lido (near the golf-course), but I doubt it's a place where anyone could 'make a packet' with 'X-rated sex'. So I think you might be better off with Venezuala (or Vladivostok).

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John -

This is called Alphabet-Poetry. It's an alphabet poem. I found yours quite entertaining. Below is an article about the genre:

A - B - C - D - E - F - G ~ gee, are these poetry form variations easy - or are they only deceptively simple?

~A~

The simplest variation of alphabet poetry consists of creating a twenty-six line poem using the alphabet, with lines beginning with consecutive letters of the alphabet from A to Z. If you decide to live a bit more dangerously, you could write a twenty-six line poem and begin your lines from Z to A.

This is a contemporary offshoot of the Abecedarian form. Originally the Abecedarian was created in Hebrew and had a stricter form made up of one hundred seventy-six lines grouped into eight-line stanzas. The Abecedarian was considered sacred - some even made the biblical cut.

~B~

If you'd like more of a challenge, try creating a twenty-six word poem - using the alphabet (in order, either A - Z or Z - A) as each word's beginning letter. The challenge here is to create something coherent.

Another version would be to only use vowels (in order, either frontward or backwards) as your beginning letters of each line.

~C~

An additional variation would be to create a poem (with any line count desired) using a single common letter to begin each line. For example, if your first line begins with the letter "B," then every line after must begin with the letter "B."

For a blending of this variation with an acrostic poem, you could have each stanza's lines have the same unique beginning letter, but then the stanzas would spell out something. For example (showing only the beginning letter formation):

A...

A...

A...


L...

L...

L...


I...

I...

I...


V...

V...

V...


E...

E...

E...


~D~

Finally, my favorite version is the one where a poet takes a letter of the alphabet and studies it. What does it remind you of? Does an "o" make you think of a perfect pearl plucked from the sea? Perhaps you take the point of view of a mugging victim and the end of a gun's barrel is the "o" they can see - all they can see - even long after the crime.

Before we end this article let's answer the question posed at the beginning: Are these poetry form variations easy - or are they only deceptively simple? The answer is both yes and no. The forms are relatively simple, but the challenge is, as always, to create density (layers of meaning) with each word and with each line.

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Unread 05-10-2008, 12:50 PM
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Alphabet
by Edward Lear


A

tumbled down, and hurt his Arm, against a bit of wood.

B

said, 'My boy, O! do not cry; it cannot do you good!'

C

said, 'A Cup of Coffee hot can't do you any harm.'

D

said, 'A Doctor should be fetched, and he would cure the arm.'

E

said, 'An Egg beat up with milk would quickly make him well.'

F

said, 'A Fish, if broiled, might cure, if only by the smell.'

G

said, 'Green Gooseberry fool, the best of cures I hold.'

H

said, 'His Hat should be kept on, to keep him from the cold.'

I

said, 'Some Ice upon his head will make him better soon.'

J

said, 'Some Jam, if spread on bread, or given in a spoon!'

K

said, 'A Kangaroo is here, -- this picture let him see.'

L

said, 'A Lamp pray keep alight, to make some barley tea.'

M

said, 'A Mulberry or two might give him satisfaction.'

N

said, 'Some Nuts, if rolled about, might be a slight attraction.'

O

said, 'An Owl might make him laugh, if only it would wink.'

P

said, 'Some Poetry might be read aloud, to make him think.'

Q

said, 'A Quince I recommend, -- a Quince, or else a Quail.'

R

said, 'Some rats might make him move, if fastened by their tail.'

S

said, 'A Song should now be sung, in hopes to make him laugh!'

T

said, 'A Turnip might avail, if sliced or cut in half!'

U

said, 'An Urn, with water hot, place underneath his chin!'

V

said, 'I'll stand upon a chair, and play a Violin!'

W

said, 'Some Whisky-Whizzgigs fetch, some marbles and a ball!'

X

said, 'Some double XX ale would be the best of all!'

Y

said, 'Some Yeast mixed up with salt would make a perfect plaster!'

Z

said, 'Here is a box of Zinc! Get in, my little master!


'We'll shut you up! We'll nail you down! We will, my little master!
'We think we've all heard quite enough of this your sad disaster!'

[This message has been edited by Martin Elster (edited May 10, 2008).]
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Unread 05-10-2008, 12:52 PM
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John, that is such an excellent piece. I don't think I need to soapbox, you have done it much better.

This form lends itself to frivolous or serious subjects. (or as you have done a seemingly frivolous that ends witha double whammy.)

It brought to mind a sonnet which I particularly like, by Julia Alvarez (from 33) starting "Let's make a modern primer for our kids" and commences with Auschwitz and ends with Zaire.

I'm not posting it because it it is surely under copyrithgt, couldn't find it on the net, but if anyone has either "The Penguin Book of the Sonnet" OR "The Making of a Sonnet", you will find it in both.
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John,
I love your poem. I thought, "I'll show him! I'll knock a poem off before I go to bed." After 45 minutes I retired exhausted thinking I'll write it tomorrow.
Funny poem.
Janet
(Pathetic patching up of last stanza to work in Y. I'll write a better poem ASAP)
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Aussie poets write an argot
Bloody hard for Poms and Yanks.
Cultural edicts now embargo
Different idioms from our ranks.

English poets fake a diction
Found in football crowds and pubs.
Generally they like the fiction
Home for them is Wormwood Scrubs.

Italy is where a poet
Justifies a decent grave.
Keats in Rome is how we know it
Likes a poet to behave.

Madagascar’s rich tradition
Nurtured by the French écoles,
Overwhelmed with faux tuition
Poets weep to lose their souls.

Qatar poets’ ancient voices
Resonate across the sands,
Since they know the people’s choice is
Taken from the poets’ hands.

USA is overflowing
Verging on a verbal glut.
What they miss is not worth knowing.
Xmas bookshops never shut.

Yevteshenko got them going,
Zeroed on by scuttlebutt.




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Bad Mouthing the Monster

Anyone seeing that monster beware.
Better be cautious and hide over there.
Can't be too careful when it roams around.
Don't make a sound when its feet pound the ground.
Everyone knows that a monster is bad.
Find me a monster who's good, I'll be glad.
Help it just once and it tricks you instead.
I would not help it but hide in my bed.
Just because you see a tear in its eye
Keep far away if you don't want to cry.
Little kids sometimes think it is a friend.
Maybe the monster's bad ways we can end?
No, don't believe it. Just keep far away.
Only the monster will laugh when you play.
People! Stand back. There it comes in the night.
Quiet! It's crying, though ugly alright.
Really I wish it did not shed those tears
Saying it has had no friend now in years.
Tricks it will play. It knows nothing of love
Unless it is food that the beast's thinking of.
Violet, the girl who once lived down the street,
Wasn't so careful. That monster can eat!
Xs and Os she wrote on a love letter.
Yes, she believed that the beast could get better.
Zero's the chance of that. Boy, did it get her.



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I am considering, well, more than considering, writing a book rather like the one called 'The Game of Words' written by the great Willard Espy. It is ordered alphabetically. I thought by judicious thievery from him and the ever-inventive linguistics professor David crystal (Language Play) plus stealing stuff from Erastosphereans, I would find the book practically writing itself. Sam Gwynn has already, unwittingly, provided me with material for the section on Cento. When I find the publisher(any of you out there publishers?) I will make lots of money. Well, a bit. And will you get any. Yes lots. Well, a bit. Thank you Frank and Janet.

I hesitate to point it out, Janet, but you've forgotten Y. The end of the alphabet is a real bastard, isn't it?

Does anyone know - I bet someone does - why the alphabet is in the order that it is? mean I know it follows, partly, the orderof the Greek alphabet, but only partly. Anyway, like many of the arguments for God, it only shoves the question back one spaceI know someone will know. If you want to know stuff, ask a bunch of Americans. Brits are far too lazy, and unless they went to Eton or some similar establishment, like the great Boris, and his sidecick Dave, too ill-educated.

PS Antipodeans also know stuff, but I don't know how that came about.
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Above is a pathetic patch-up attempt to insert Y. I will write a better poem.

Having met dear old souls who study for doctorates they miss because of inconvenient deaths I have settled for just standing there and absorbing the knowledge of others. Amazing what one can pick up.
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Check out Wilbur's "The Disappearing Alphabet," which goes through the ABC's speculating what would happen if each letter didn't exist. (I discovered this, by the way, after I wrote a similar but of course inferior children's book about what would happen if each of the numbers 0 to 10 went missing).

Here's Wilbur's X:

The letter X will never disappear.
The more you cross it out, the more it's here.
But if it vanished, treasure maps would not
Have anything with which to mark the spot,
And treasure isles would ring with the despair
Of puzzled pirates digging everywhere.

*
And here's a short one:

At breakfast time, the useful letter T
Preserves us all from eating SHREDDED WHEA.



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