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12-26-2010 until 12-30-2029
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ON GUTTING OUT YOUR WORKSHOP THREAD

Please note that the practice of editing out a poem under critique and leaving a headless thread contravenes our posting and etiquette guidelines.

This practice is unfair to the posters who have taken time to comment on the workshop thread, and it degrades the forum and Eratosphere in general. Unless a Moderator closes your thread, you are expected to leave it open for critique for at least two weeks after posting. The only other circumstances under which the main post/poem in a critique thread is to be removed from a workshop forum (i.e., Metrical, The Deep End, Non-Metrical, Translation, Fiction) are as follows:

1) through our regular, monthly pruning process (which removes the whole thread)

or

2) by consultation with the forum moderator, and for a substantial reason (sending the poem out for submission, etc.).

Under all other circumstances, including the receipt of unfavorable critique, gutting a workshop thread by removing the main post/poem is a violation of our posting and etiquette guidelines. Members who engage in this practice may face a temporary or even permanent loss of editing privileges.

Thank you all for your cooperation in this matter.

Cheers,
...Alex
 
01-08-2009 until 12-27-2029
Alex Pepple Alex Pepple is offline
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DEEP END! ! READ THIS FIRST -- POSTING GUIDELINES AND COPYRIGHT ADVISORY

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Warning: Unauthorized reposting or reproduction of any work posted to Eratosphere's workshop boards for critique is a violation of copyright, and is unacceptable under any circumstances. For further information, see our full Copyright Advisory for Workshop Posts here.
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Read these requirements before posting in this forum.

NEW MEMBERS may respond to existing poetry threads but may not start new ones of their own until they have offered at least 15 critiques AND until one week has passed following their membership approval, unless by special permission from an Eratosphere moderator. This limitation is part of the registration agreement for all members who signed up after January 21, 2004, and applies to all critical forums.

Please post no more than one poem in the combined forums in any 7-day period in order to allow time for serious critique of your own work and to give other poets a chance to have their work critiqued as well! Please post revisions in the original thread, if it is still on the board, rather than taking up a new line. You can do this using the edit function to paste the revision above your original poem. Be sure to mark which is the revised version. And to make sure your revision gets noticed, post a note at the bottom of the thread to push it back up.

Everybody is welcome to post, but know what you are getting yourself into when you swim here. The Deep End is a forum for serious practitioners of poetry who have read extensively and whose work is of a high quality, and who desire advanced critique. It is not a place for beginners or early drafts. Eratosphere offers no beginners' forum, but if you are unsure whether your metrical poem is ready for Deep End critique, you may wish to post it to Metrical instead.

Critique should focus on the work posted and be as objective as possible.

Whether your opinion is positive or negative, it is good practice to support it by close reference to details of the text and, where appropriate, to suggest possible improvements or alternative lines of development. These features need not be present in every critique, but patterns of repeated praise or denigration without any support or suggestions are not acceptable.

A professional attitude is expected in response to critique. A poster may disagree with critique, but that should be done tactfully. Disrespectful responses, e.g. those that include petulance or justify rejecting critique on the basis that an off-board authority knows better, are not acceptable.

Poems posted here are expected to remain open for critique for at least two weeks after posting. Please do not post poems which have been submitted for publication prior to posting, and please do not submit them for publication within that period. (Exceptions may be requested from the moderators.)

Those who donít abide by these rules may have their post deleted by the moderator and/or be blocked from further posting.

Contact any moderator with posting problems.


______ AN ADMONITION NOTE TO BEGINNERS & THEIR CHAMPIONS ______

It id necessary to remind everyone, especially beginners and/or those who want to champion them here how Eratosphere works:
  1. Eratosphere is not for beginners. There are several other forums out there who cater to beginners and we encourage beginners to find one that fits them better -- Google is your friend.
  2. If you're a beginner and post a weak poem, or a non-beginner who posts an anemic poem -- usually as a result of rushing to post without sufficient revision -- expect tough and even brutal critique.
  3. Still, despite statement 1), we do tolerate beginners who are willing to take tough critique as described in 2), to progressively improve their writing.
  4. Arguing with critique is against Eratosphere guidelines, especially, if you're a beginner, as evidenced by your post(s). Repeating this pattern of behavior might lead to temporary or permanent ban.
  5. Also, arguing in proxy for a beginner or beginner-poem in an attempt to counteract well-meaning, albeit tough or even brutal critique of others, is considered disruptive, and is deemed a cliquish attempt to diffuse the high standards that Eratosphere is known for. Repeating this pattern of behavior might also lead to temporary or permanent ban from Eratosphere.
Now that you've all been duly warned, especially those who fall in the categories 4) and 5) above -- carry on ... but be mindful of how you do so!

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Cheers,
...Alex
(for the Eratosphere Staff)

 
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