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Thank you, Hilary.
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(I should maybe have found a way of introducing this thread without explaining about the glosses. Obviously, I've made it harder for readers to imagine they don't know about them.) |
Max, I guess it would depend on how it's done. If I knew it was a parody/pastiche based on a particular poem, I would try to read or re-read the original poem. I actually did re-read "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" recently, but I read it on the Poetry Foundation website, which does not include the glosses. I had to specifically look up glosses to find an online version that has them.
A note of some sort might be helpful, but I suppose it depends on how important it is for people to know the source material in order to "get" the parody. If I encountered a poem with glosses and didn't know the background, it would make me think of Nabokov's Pale Fire, but somehow I doubt that would be a common reaction. Anyway the project sounds like great fun and I hope you'll share it if/when it's finished. |
Reinvent the poem from the glosses?
Clive |
Max, I've read 'The Ancient Mariner' many times, at school, at university, and for the purpose of writing competition entries, and I've never seen a version with the 'glosses' you describe. I think I would be confused by a parody that included them.
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Thanks for the further thoughts, Hilary.
That's a fun idea, Clive. Brian, that's exactly the answer I've worried about. Thanks for sharing it. This thread has been helpful. I've been tinkering with the pastiche. I'll see what I can do with it. |
Just one more bit of data: This boomer first read the poem in high school, and it had the notes, and I experienced them as part of the author's intention and would expect them to be there.
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Thanks, Maryann!
Entirely apart from my little pastiche, I've grown curious about how common each set of conflicting gloss-expectations are, so if others feel like chiming in, I'll read with interest. Thanks in advance. |
Late to the party, as usual ~ !
Clive, your list of Coleridge's best mirrors my own. Those poems are inexhaustible, and for different reasons, which speaks to their range. I had to do an oral report on Coleridge's versions of "Dejection: an Ode" in grad school. It was fascinating to comb through the various cuts and changes that moved it from a highly personal effusion to its final (much shorter) version. Clive's list: This Lime-Tree Bower My Prison (1797) Christabel (1797 – 1800) The Rime of the Ancient Mariner (1798) Frost at Midnight (1798) Kubla Khan (1798) Dejection: an Ode (1802) |
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