Roger

The AGWs won't convince me of anything as long as they just flatly deny that there's any truth in what the so-called sceptics are saying. As John says, the AGWs don't bother to explain anything to us. All they can say is: "We're right. All you non-believers can go to hell!"

I'm as concerned for the environment as anyone, but I can't ignore what's been exposed. And I just hate cover-ups. Sure, I understand a lot's been invested in this climate conference. The most positive metaphor I can find is "Nelson-like blindness". But most of all I think: "The Emperor has no clothes!"

Duncan

What Janet said.

If some of the more notorious emails are genuine, this casts some doubt on the credibility of some members of the proportionally small number of scientists who are involved in the compilation and analysis of global climate data. And that's all that can be said, really; "climategate" does not amount to a refutation of the science that has been devoted to this issue--rather, it seems like a series of stuff-ups in communication, protocol and judgement by relatively few individuals.
It is not a good look for them, of course, and sucks a lot of oxygen (!) from their campaign.