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Lyrics are poems, right, Bob?
Here's an L. Cohen lyric that empties the soul... Diamonds In The Mine The woman in blue, she's asking for revenge The man in white -- that's you -- says he has no friends The river is swollen up with rusty cans And the trees are burning in your promised land And there are no letters in the mailbox And there are no grapes upon the vine And there are no chocolates in the boxes anymore And there are no diamonds in the mine Well, you tell me that your lover has a broken limb You say you're kind of restless now and it's on account of him Well, I saw the man in question, it was just the other night He was eating up a lady where the lions and Christians fight And there are no letters in the mailbox And there are no grapes upon the vine And there are no chocolates in the boxes anymore And there are no diamonds in the mine (You tell them now) Ah, there is no comfort in the covens of the witch Some very clever doctor went and sterilized the bitch And the only man of energy, yes the revolution's pride He trained a hundred women just to kill an unborn child And there are no letters in the mailbox Oh no, there are no, no grapes upon your vine And there are, there are no chocolates in your boxes anymore And there are no diamonds in your mine And there are no letters in the mailbox And there are no grapes upon the vine And there are no chocolates in your boxes anymore And there are no diamonds in your mine |
Two of my favorite Emily Dickinson poems are rather depressing, though the fact that they are so good is a countervailing force that cheers me up. The second of these in particular is quite wonderful.
The Heart asks Pleasure – first – And then – Excuse from Pain – And then – those little Anodynes That deaden suffering – And then – to go to sleep – And then – if it should be The will of its Inquisitor The liberty to die – ** Finding is the first Act The second, loss, Third, Expedition for The "Golden Fleece" Fourth, no Discovery -- Fifth, no Crew -- Finally, no Golden Fleece -- Jason -- sham -- too. |
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Perhaps my favorite poet to be depressing is George Crabbe; as, for instance, he is in The Village. Far from romanticizing rural swains, his poem is the antithesis of the Idyll. A few excerpts.
The village life, and every care that reigns |
My Missing Muse
Asking her to sing again makes my words mere wind that is yet to move again as if I've somehow sinned. And then when my words move again they barely rise as sound and I invoke my Muse again who’s nowhere to be found! |
For the Ten Billionth Time
We're born, we live, we die, we're dust. It isn't just, or unjust, just the way it is, and that is it. We're all wormfood. Who gives a shit? |
Dark Quatrain
The chamber’s mouth turns things around, six shots, six echoed blasts rebound to balance out each last affront against ourselves. We seem to hunt; foregoing words, our shots resound. The chamber’s mouth turns things around, tongue-hammering hollow points, a ton till justice is seen to be done. The Wild West turned into law, on any thief, a man may draw, the chamber’s mouth turns things around, the loser’s voice is all but drowned. The tension on the schoolboy heightens until his trigger finger tightens and bully falls dead on the ground, the chamber’s mouth turned things around. f |
Impressive, Erik.
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The saddest things ever written were put to song. Here are three VERY sad and ultimately depressing works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kSrV_CubiQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN9CjAfo5n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3dapDTDJzk The Gary Moore (last link, with the amazing Bob Daisley - who composed most of Ozzy's first album and didn't get credit, thanks to Sharon Osbourne) is particularly sad. And he was an incredible songwriter and guitarist, who went virtually unnoticed. |
If I should die
I shall try not to die. This is a given. Part of the basic programme of instruction Built into me with the accreting cells At the beginning. But I will have to in the end. Things do. Meanwhile I try from time to time to guess How it will come and what will happen, after The lights go out. I don’t do souls. I work in certainties Although I wouldn’t rule out altogether The interesting possibility. One never knows. I live alone, along with a small dog. If I am taken unexpectedly He won’t know how to jury-rig a flag Or use the phone. I don’t believe he’ll grieve. He’ll whine a bit When he wants out. He’ll feel the need for food. My immobility will represent A broken promise. Flesh will cool, stiffen, soften, become meat And deliquesce into the irresistible. Dog will decide I have at last provided And will partake. When famine follows feast, he will succumb; Probably at my side. Nature, who wastes nothing Will send in other, smaller, needy things To tidy up. However the end ends – Bailiffs, Police – We will be waiting in the dusty dark; A rough pile of assorted spillikins And a hairy biscuit. |
Ann, you never cease to amaze me. WOW.
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Ann, wonderful poem indeed. It caused me to investigate whether a dog would indeed eat its owner, and you will be eerily cheered to know that your poem is factually accurate.
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Depressing or just the way it is.
One day the light will just go out.
Everything that happened before will be as futile as a shout behind a soundproof door! |
Thank you, Rogerbob.
I was pretty sure I had the truth of it when I wrote of it, but a little extra evidence never goes amiss. But me? And my dog? "Well", as Larkin says, "we shall find out". |
It makes you wonder whether it only occurs to them after you die, or they've actually been eyeing you for years and mentally salivating at the prospect.
* By the way, my "Resumé" poem posted above is one of the Poems of the Week in Light. |
I clicked on "Light" and that, too, led me to the dogstruth...
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Oops. Try again.
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The Size of Things
Things get smaller as we age, As verified when we return To childhood’s home—too small a stage, Too cramped for anyone to learn A mother tongue, a social grace, To ride a bike, to add a sum, But every place remains in place And states its earthly, firm I am: A once-big desk at once-big school, A shrunken church, a shrunken store, An oceanic backyard pool Diminished at its bluegrass shore. So here our letters were addressed Once we had left for brighter lights, Which we’ve since seen, and aren’t impressed. The old, familiar smallness blights The capitals of foreign lands, Stunts their mountains, tames their wilds. Repetition comprehends Our making love, and what it yields. Such secrets as exist are bared, And after some score years are done We’re full of time and stand prepared To face the world to come, or none. |
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The "lady" discretely vamoosed down I - 95 to her home in New Jersey. It was late winter, and the decedent was left locked up in his rural house with two German shepherd dogs and three cats. About 10 days passed before anybody called on him. Yes, indeed, a dog will eat his deceased master. But, the cats also participated. A friend of mine who knew him well was called in by the Sheriff to identify the remains. Though my friend had hunted and butchered deer for 40 years, this was the "grossest thing he ever saw". For some strange reason, his estate could find no buyers for the house. It was burned, and the land sold a few years later. The man happened to be a retired sheriff deputy from western New York state with old Mob connections. There is a moral here ... several, in fact. |
Thank you, Douglas. It always makes me happy when people read my stuff and say "true, dat". I am still actively engaged in the eternal search for Truth, but I like to tackle Reality along the way, to keep my hand in as it were.
Perhaps it's unduly British, or wimminly, of me to ask, but do you know what happened to the animals afterwards? |
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That aside, I cannot forbear to compliment you, Ann, on a truly praise-worthy poem. A curious side-effect of it, or proof of its resonance rather: the prospect it describes came into my head throughout the day when I least expected. I found I could never be bored... Though worked to death, bored I was not-- |
Erik, one of the things I hope to find in others' poems is what I call "head-food"; I am delighted that you have found it in mine.
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The man who died had no local relatives. He had a rich aunt in Florida who was about 90. This whole event did not make the newspapers, as it would have sullied Maine's reputation as "Vacationland". |
I would gladly take a vacation in a district so enlightened. Thank you, Douglas; that made me happy.
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These are all wonderful.
Here's my 2 cents' worth, from my last book: LIMITS OF MY KNOWLEDGE Along the beach the footsteps wend. I do not know where things will end. You found yourself another friend. I do not know why things must end. Researchers tell us time can bend. I do not know when things will end. The plots of all the movies blend. I do not know how things will end. I've seen the way my white cells trend. I only know that things will end. |
PS: I think Ann distinctly wins!
I've always figured that if I died alone and nobody noticed, I was cat food. |
I wish I had something to contribute. I just want to say how much I'm enjoying this thread. (Perhaps I have a strange sort of mind.)
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These are tough acts to follow, no doubt. Yet I fancy this Kyrielle is sufficiently dark anyway.
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The River Children Come of Age
Those first years we lived above the river, Christ, we were insatiable, screwing our heads off in the kitchen, on that floor you stenciled yellow, and gave no thought to children or the future, or the dead; and, indeed, the dead in time came to the river, and the ghosts of children, demanding and insatiable, calling for that yellow kitchen within this new six-burner steel kitchen where everything that lives is dead, and a silent cat stares through slits of yellow, and its owners fear the river; and only the night is insatiable, and there are no children; and the friends who laughed like children as we caressed each other’s spouses in the kitchen, six of us, one Christmas night, stoned and insatiable, they are all dead, those others, dead; the last one buried somewhere upstate near a river last October, on a day the red and yellow leaves made crazy patterns like that yellow, red and green linguini we hungry children hung to dry above the river in a whirling, smoke-filled kitchen; the lights of passing barges glinting off the dead, flat, cold and bottomless water, insatiable for everything that one time seemed insatiable; and eventually the skin will yellow and the nerves below the knees feel dead, and we are again children, huddled in the kitchen, shades pulled against the river as a low, late sun tints the kitchen chrome and yellow; slanting off the river, crying that the dead are all insatiable; and that there are no children. |
Too well-crafted to be depressing, Michael. It gives a little too much delight.
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Too well crafted? Oh, I can fix that.
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Michael, don't un-craft this part
for everything that one time seemed insatiable; and eventually the skin will yellow and the nerves below the knees feel dead, and we are again children, huddled in the kitchen, shades pulled against the river it's depressingly good |
If bad is sad
then this poem's a tragedy |
Scourge
I am myself my own havoc and pain, look on all sides for some respite in vain. d |
19th July 1944
That was the day when there was too much sky. Nobody came to get her out of bed and when she went by herself to the window yesterday’s everything had disappeared. Everybody was busy and shouting and when at last the feet came on the stairs something inside insisted she should run across the room and jump back into bed. Someone came in and sat down on the bed and said the little boy across the road wouldn’t be coming over for a while. He and his Mum had had to go away. He wanted her, they said, to have Blue Bear to keep for him. But Blue Bear had got wet although it wasn’t raining and he smelt of the fireplace first thing in the morning. Alone again, she went back to the window. How odd of Raymond, when he went away, to take his house with him but leave Blue Bear. She didn’t like that there was too much sky. |
Ann, you ripped my heart out on Saturday morning with this ‘Vengeance weapons' (‘Vergeltungswaffen’) poem. You get the child's perspective just right.
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Wow, Ann, you've disproved your theory that a poem can be too well-crafted to be depressing. It's the extraordinary craft that brings the emotion of this poem home.
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Call of Duty [A Rondelet x 2]
In smoky chambers was where their stars and plaques were dealt. In smoky chambers their errant raid slew honest neighbors swifter than thought, the point man felt threatened, loosed leaden death that dwelt in smoky chambers. In smoky chambers they brought their 'man down' who was felled in smoky chambers. Iron-hearted heroes in their numbers, they formed deep rows, all seen to melt for him whose widow wailed and knelt in smokey chambers. g |
The Bottom
I'm down here at the bottom, looking up, I see no light; my optimism's faded and I've lost the will to fight. |
Nha. Never mind.
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