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Julie Steiner 02-09-2017 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Southerland (Post 388463)
*Fauxcahontas* if you really take time to think about it, isn't a racial epithet at all. Just the opposite. It's calling out someone for pretending to be something they are not. Kind of like the Winter soldiers, Stolen Valor thing to my mind. Just sayin'.

Actually, Charlie, what it reminds me of is Barack Obama's birth certificate. Are you seriously demanding that Senator Elizabeth Warren prove that her DNA test results confirm her family stories, before she's allowed to conduct Senate business, such as speaking at a Senate confirmation hearing?

Whether the Blaze is right or Snopes.com is right, the validity of Elizabeth Warren's account of her racial heritage has absolutely no bearing on her duty to express concerns about what an Attorney General nominee's past actions indicate about his commitment to civil rights for all. This was a hearing to assess Sessions's character and competence, not Warren's.

No matter how much you hate her--and don't tell me that under all the personal vitriol you're spewing against the woman, there's a spirit of Christian charity, because the contemptuous name-calling says otherwise--she still has a duty, as a Senator, to express concerns about cabinet appointees. It's part of our system of checks and balances.

I'm surprised that so many people who call themselves conservatives seem opposed to conserving things like our system of checks and balances, and the principle that people should be regarded as innocent until proven guilty (not the other way around). Frankly, it makes me wonder what these conservatives think they are conserving. But I'm pretty sure it's not the honor and integrity of the Cherokee Nation, against impostors.

Gregory Palmerino 02-09-2017 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RCL (Post 388481)

Thanks for sharing that article. Anti-Christ? I know you are jesting, Ralph, but if ever a man's eyes frightened me, it's Bannon's. I'm not joking.

Greg

Nigel Mace 02-09-2017 11:19 AM

Absolutely, Gregory. From this side of the pond, Bannon appears to be dangerously insane - especially if you happen to live in the area of destruction that would be caused by a nuclear strike on our hated nuclear submarine base in the Gairloch - and that includes about a third of the population of Scotland. The only hope we can see is that Trump gets a bad attack of narcissistic jealousy over Bannon's increasing exposure as the puppet master and sacks him.
Pia Guerra's cartoon of Trump as a dummy sitting on Bannon's knee needs tweeting to Trump's account as often as possible. If you haven't seen it you can find it at http://www.nationalobserver.com/2017...s-constitution

Charlie Southerland 02-09-2017 11:21 AM

Geez, Julie, as usual, you miss the point. I don't care if Warren is related to Superman. She lied to further herself at taxpayer expense and used that to parlay it into a public position of Trust. when in fact, her racial heritage has been debunked. No one else that I am aware of is standing behind her claim of Native American status or ancestry. And, if she really cared about the truth and her honor and credibility, she would have an DNA test done. Obama didn't make an issue of his BC. Someone else did.Warren clearly made an issue out of hers before anyone else could. She's clearly a white woman. She's promulgated a lie to get ahead. Is that something you would teach your students to do to further themselves? Because of her own words, not mine, she cannot lay claim to any kind of moral superiority or high ground when it comes to a colleague in the US Senate whom she serves with day in, day out. She wasn't out there spewing her vitriol about him until he was nominated for AG. Again, hypocrisy, Julie. It can't be cut any other way.

I don't, as a Christian, hate her. I hate her politics which is a very different thing. As far as checks and balances are concerned, I never saw a single Democrat march against Senator Robert Byrd (God rest his soul) for his long association with the KKK, did you? I wonder what he would have classified Obama as? I never saw a single Democrat march against Senator Edward Kennedy for his Chappaquiddick encounter. Where was checks and balances in that instance? Were all the people who elected Byrd Klansmen, or were all the folks of Massachusetts who voted for Kennedy murderers? No, they were pretty much Democrats.

Duty? Really?

James Brancheau 02-09-2017 11:51 AM

You didn't mention her politics, Charlie.

And, really? I mean, we have the polymorphously horrible Trump as president. And you bring this up? My my my.

Silliness.

Gregory Palmerino 02-09-2017 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nigel Mace (Post 388497)
Pia Guerra's cartoon of Trump as a dummy sitting on Bannon's knee needs tweeting to Trump's account as often as possible. If you haven't seen it you can find it at http://www.nationalobserver.com/2017...s-constitution

Thanks for the link, Nigel. Very humorous. Very frightening. We'll all be dying laughing soon enough. (Sorry for the apocalyptic humor. I have to stop that).

Cheers,
Greg

Charlie Southerland 02-09-2017 11:59 AM

Sure I did, James. She promulgated a lie to get ahead. That is her politics.

Ha! I wasn't talking about Trump. Or Hillary, who climbed on Bill's back to get where she got.

William A. Baurle 02-09-2017 12:28 PM

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I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.
— Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944[11][18]
- from Wikipedia article on Robert C. Byrd.

Why should God rest this man's soul, Charlie?

Who does God want to keep company with in Heaven? And someone like Gandhi is in hell because he wasn't a Christian?

Bunk.

Andrew Frisardi 02-09-2017 12:32 PM

"Mr. Trump’s appointment of Bannon, Flynn and Sessions are the first steps in the project of taking America back."

--David Duke, former KKK bloke

See Duke's Twitter account with its prominent Fight for Western Civilization slogan. That's the stuff Steve Bannon's dreams are made on. With people like Duke and Bannon in charge, it will be very civilized, I'm sure.

James Brancheau 02-09-2017 03:44 PM

Not to be disrespectful, Charlie, but I really think your views are based on regionalism, being provincial. Nothing at all to do with Jesus. Islamic terrorism much the same. I think Warren, whether or not she has Native American blood for God's sake, certainly follows Christ more than Ted Cruz, Mike Pence, or any other such people who in fact should hope there isn't a god.


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