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Andrew Szilvasy 01-08-2021 09:31 AM

The GOP wants to leave Trump to Biden so they can then paint Biden as a divisive partisan.

They're going to dare the Dems to impeach and then run out the clock.

Andrew Szilvasy 01-08-2021 09:48 AM

And Graham's already saying impeachment would be divisive.

https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/...68532951867392

Jim Moonan 01-08-2021 10:42 AM

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Resign. Resign.
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(I'm a dreamer)

Aaron Novick 01-08-2021 11:03 AM

Of incomparably more importance than the question of whether Trump leaves office before January 20 or on January 20 is the fact that Biden plans to do the Patriot Act 2.0.

Roger Slater 01-08-2021 11:06 AM

OMG! Biden wants to take guns away from right-wing extremists who threaten insurrection! Maybe we should just let Trump keep being president after all.

John Riley 01-08-2021 12:33 PM

Actually, Aaron, at this time the immediate situation in the country is of the utmost importance. There will be plenty of time to push Biden into taking positions that will lead inevitably to another Republican/Fascist takeover of the country. Be patient.

Roger Slater 01-08-2021 01:27 PM

Aaron links to an article about Biden's plan to pass more red flag laws. I can't read the whole article, since there's a paywall, but it's my understanding that red flag laws are laws that allow the government to temporarily take away guns from people who have been shown in court (by, for example, a petition from a family member) to present a danger to others. So if someone goes around saying that "someone" should assassinate Michigan's governor, maybe that person shouldn't be allowed to own an AK15. The "threat" of such a law is certainly not greater than the threat of what Trump may do over the next 12 days.

Aaron Novick 01-08-2021 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Slater (Post 459077)
OMG! Biden wants to take guns away from right-wing extremists who threaten insurrection! Maybe we should just let Trump keep being president after all.

Well this is certainly an honest response to what I said!

Julie Steiner 01-08-2021 02:59 PM

The following press release was included in an email sent to all members of the League of Women Voters (including, obviously, me).

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League of Women Voters of the United States Calls for Immediate Removal of President Donald Trump

WASHINGTON – Thursday night, the League of Women Voters board of directors met and voted unanimously to call for the immediate removal of Donald J. Trump from the office of the President of the United States of America via any legal means, including and in order of preference: impeachment with disqualification, the invocation of the 25th amendment, or resignation. Today, the League of Women Voters board of directors issued the following statement:

“Donald Trump must be immediately removed as President of the United States of America and banned from running for federal office ever again.

“The sitting president was the instigator of Wednesday’s domestic terrorist attack on the U.S. Capitol that left five Americans dead and many more injured. He commanded an army of insurrectionists to forcefully overturn our free and fair elections in an effort to maintain power. These are the actions of a tyrannical despot, and they are in direct opposition to American democracy. President Trump continues to present a clear threat to national security as well as the safety and security of the American public.

“For violating his oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, Donald Trump must immediately resign or be removed from office by any measure possible in accordance with the law. Removing President Trump from the office of the president and swearing in Vice President Mike Pence to fulfill the duration of this presidential term will ensure our Constitution is maintained and upheld.

“The League of Women Voters calls on both the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate to immediately impeach President Trump with disqualification and remove him from office. Should Congress fail to impeach him, we call on Vice President Mike Pence and the Cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment and remove President Trump from office immediately.”

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Andrew Mandelbaum 01-09-2021 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron Novick (Post 459076)
Of incomparably more importance than the question of whether Trump leaves office before January 20 or on January 20 is the fact that Biden plans to do the Patriot Act 2.0.

I think this is mistaken. Not responding with clear and harsh rejections of these sort of clown-putsch feelers always precedes escalation and future victories of the clowns. You can't let this be a learning experience on how to overthrow democracy (no matter how imperfect that democracy). It has to be a career death sentence and prison time for many involved.
What new law specifically worries you? I may missed something that is important.


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