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Of course it's a sonnet, just as "Paradise Lost" is unmistakeably a limerick.
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I'm not a purist about what a sonnet can be. I like to see people play with the expectations of the form. I love the one-syllable lines of George Starbuck's "Space-Saver Sonnets" in hemimeter. But I feel there is too much omitted in this poem for me to grasp more than a yearning from it.
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I think it's an admirable poem, but it works - with the spaces added - as a unique poem, not as a sonnet. As originally posted it was more sonnetaristic (recognizing we all have our individual definitions), but I didn't think it was very interesting. The spacing makes a big difference, but I no longer think of it as a sonnet.
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Double post - sorry.
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Yes, as a poem. No, as a sonnet.
No single line in this short a poem carries enough weight by itself to constitute a sonnet line in my undistinguished opinion. There is something about lines to be considered here: 14 lines yes, but what is a line in a sonnet? I believe each couplet is holding itself as a line, with some connection(s)/ tensions developed in each of those lines. I don't believe a line is any set of words ending in a line break, but, particularly in a sonnet, where the "lines" are counted, is an element that picks up a thread of meaning and partially develops it or contributes to its development. Each "line" of dimeter in this piece seems to have a strong need for its "mate" in the couplet. In one of the more favored couplets for ex, Quote:
Thus much Unjust itself doesn't do anything. The poem has 7 "sonnet-style" lines. These ideas however only apply to a sonnet, I think. I love the spacing and what it does, but that technique, however sophisticated and useful, is not one of the techniques of a sonnet. Call it something else, I rather like it! But a sonnet is not just a poem with 14 lines, "lines" being any group of words that ends in a line break. Each line should be a line in a more traditional sense, and it should "work" without the use of spacing techniques. Give those techniques, and this form, a name, and let it have its own competition... Old Guard Schoolmarm Naysayer |
Whether or not it's a sonnet, this is the liveliest of the four that have appeared so far. Since it's close enough to qualify, I think the DG did the right thing by including it. (Yes, the DG was no doubt sitting up all night worrying about whether I approved of his/her actions.)
I read this as sort of "insta-sonnet mix": if you were to add a bunch of details and stir, you'd get a conventional sonnet. I wouldn't enjoy eating a sonnet baked that way (which is actually how I feel about the other entrants so far), but eating the mix straight out of the box is awesome. Reminds me a bit of this limerick. |
There seems to be an agreement among critics that Elizabeth Bishop's "Sonnet" (not the first one written as a teenager but the second one written not too long before her death) can be called a sonnet -- even with it's short lines and a sestet that comes before the octet. If that is the case, I think that this poem deserves to be thought of as a sonnet. I am actually wondering if the author of this is using Bishop's poem as a model since, for me, the turn happens with the colon at the end of the sixth line. Maybe this could be thought of as a sonnet form -- something a bit different like Hopkins' curtal sonnet.
I did find this poem much more compelling with the indentations of the second line of each stanza. |
loses the melody in the fourth verse, are they all this bad?
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Well. Somewhat intriguing, perhaps. The nursery-rhyme feel mentioned by the DG is one of the things it has going for it.
But--and I speak as one who likes to bend the boundaries of "sonnet" a bit--it seems to me too much of a stretch to call this a sonnet, just because the word "sonnet" is in its title, and choose it as a finalist in a contest meant to be specifically for sonnets! I felt hugely jarred in every way at "nonplussed,"-- a word that definitely has its place in poetry and prose, but this place in this poem is not it. I do rather like the last four lines... |
For the first several readings, I also thought that "nonplussed" was a bad choice. But then I tried to find another word that would fit better -- and came up with nothing that, for me, expressed the kind of confusion the N is feeling. Something extremely hurtful has happened and the N can't -- even after many years -- understand why. There is almost a desperate need for resolution. The more I read, the more I like "nonplussed" and the way it occurs just as the poem turns. And the more I like the poem.
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