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John Isbell 07-28-2021 05:07 AM

Actually, it's all about Fred Astaire and Rita Hayworth dancing to Jackie Wilson. That's it, that's the end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GaKMeX7t3c

Cheers,
John

Joe Crocker 07-28-2021 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by John Isbell (Post 468277)
Actually, it's all about Fred Astaire and Rita Hayworth dancing to Jackie Wilson. That's it, that's the end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GaKMeX7t3c

Cheers,
John

That is so good John.

Did you ever see Dave Brubeck's version of The Stanglers' "Golden Brown"?

There's a moment near the end (1:49) when drummer Joe Morello suspects there's been a rip in time/space fabric.

John Isbell 07-28-2021 06:00 AM

Joe, that is beautiful. Thanks for posting it! My brother lives for rock music, I'm sending him the link. As a commenter says, "Simply the coolest group of accountants you will ever see."
Also, The Stranglers! It reminds me of how John Coltrane found "My Favorite Things" and played it for 22 minutes in Stockholm.

Cheers,
John

Ann Drysdale 07-28-2021 08:23 AM

Joe, that is beautifully put together, a real labour of love. It takes two fine things and twists them into a sweet chimaera that I could listen to all day. Thanks. I shall enjoy finding out more about the chap who made it.

Coming back to say that I've found more about Laurence Mason. What a fascinating young man. That sax solo is a great homage to Paul Desmond, whom I have long idolised. My son did a bit of Roadie-ing for The Stranglers in the early days and it was he who introduced me to Golden Brown. I rang him when Dave died to say I'd heard and was sorry. Bits of my life, Joe, knitted into a simple/spectacular sweater by that young musician. It fits me and feels good. I'll wear it often. I hereby forgive you for The Fall.
.

F.F. Teague 07-28-2021 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by John Isbell (Post 468260)
Man, the Thunderbirds theme is not available in my country! I've not thought of that in donkey's years, as they say. How is Lady Penelope anyway?

John, I assume she's as she always was! Sorry you can't access the theme tune; have you tried elsewhere? In the meantime, there's plenty of info on Lady Penelope here, lol.

Joe, that's ace! Dave Brubeck is brilliant. I grew up with him, because my dad was always playing his piano pieces or listening to things. And I enjoyed playing 'Weep No More' especially. Some of the chords require a very long reach, so I'd fan them out :-)

Of course I like 'Take Five' too <(:-)

Best wishes,
Fliss

John Isbell 07-29-2021 09:35 AM

Hi Sarah-Jane,

Coming back to your initial question, I for one don't find music very useful for composition (except for ekphrastic work), but I do find it a very convenient shortcut in the editing process. My great challenge in editing is being absolutely real, if I can put it that way. Poetry gets full of crooked, fancy, razzmatazz BS, and lifting all that away to get to the true poem can be extremely hard. So I like to hear a totally true voice - a simple voice that rings with truth. I was just editing this morning after listening to the Faces' "Debris," and that did the trick. It's Ronnie Lane's song about Rod Stewart leaving the band, with Rod on backing vocals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sSXQtkFwtw

Cheers,
John

John Isbell 08-02-2021 11:06 AM

Actually, I have another vote for the saddest song ever recorded. It's Randy Newman's "God's Song (That's Why I Love Mankind)", which is certainly worth a listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0TvfqmWf4M

Update: I see I posted this right at the start. Oh well, it's worth posting twice. For a happy song, how about The Beatles' "It's All Too Much," which I believe is Harrison? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zc3idF_IZ0

Cheers,
John

Roger Slater 08-02-2021 12:23 PM

Someone mentioned Gil Scott-Heron. I happened to have heard this recently and enjoyed it.

Sarah-Jane Crowson 08-02-2021 02:04 PM

Thank you Roger, I enjoyed that too.

John, thank you, that makes sense & is really interesting. I agree with you about poetry in gen I think, all though all the arts can be like that - and everything else, really perhaps - I'm not a very musical poet (at all) but I love the idea of using music as part of the editing process.

On sad songs, there's a song somewhere in a playlist that had me in floods - it wasn't Nick Drake, but I think it was something by the Dave Brubeck quartet. Another one from another site's poetry playlist (Matt chose it, it's all his fault).

Ann, Golden Brown is such a gorgeous song. I have no connection with The Stranglers at all. My musical connections are limited to my best friend once having gone out with the bass player from EMF, and Bert Jansch having once slept over on my Dad's floor.


Sarah-Jane

John Isbell 08-04-2021 06:37 AM

Hi Sarah-Jane,

Brushes with greatness! I did have a college friend whose cousin was Lora Logic.

Anyway, here are four happy songs.
J.J. Cale, "Clyde": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEOIiIaJoPg . Cale wrote the song "Cocaine" that Clapton made famous.
Ry Cooder, "If Walls Could Talk": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urg0rr05Fyo
Ray Charles and George Jones, "We Didn't See a Thing": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1nOyaYkX5s
And last but not least, Bobby McFerrin's "Don't Worry Be Happy," with Robin Williams dancing around, possibly in Heaven: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU

Cheers,
John


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