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R. Nemo Hill 09-07-2009 06:54 AM

Terrible news.

Nemo

Marcia Karp 09-07-2009 10:26 AM

I'm so sorry to hear this.

Marcia

Mark Blaeuer 09-07-2009 10:49 AM

A reminder about collecting her poems for a book (which I think is an excellent idea, by the way): internet sites vanish constantly, and some of her web-printed poems will go along with them eventually. I had to use at least one Google cache on that account in my post above. Hopefully, she kept printouts of published work, or stored them on her hard drive, and these will survive to be reprinted if heirs and editors approve.

On the other hand, as drafts have been mentioned, we know she posted some on Eratosphere and undoubtedly elsewhere. I don’t know whether all of them wound up as published, but I recall them as being quite polished. I realize those have long since been pruned from the Sphere, but I remember a thread here from a few years ago, maybe on General Talk, where someone linked to a website that provided a way of going back in time to retrieve “ancient” threads (ones that had already disappeared even in cached form) on Eratosphere and perhaps other workshopping sites. I couldn’t locate that thread, but it the tool still exists, it’d be very helpful.

Maryann Corbett 09-07-2009 11:04 AM

The Internet Archive, informally known as the Wayback Machine, stores the contents of assorted pages as they appeared on stated dates. It doesn't have everything, but Mark is right that we might find something.

If Paul is correct that Maz lost poems when a drive became unreadable, there will be a lot of searching to be done--assuming that we receive permission to do it, and that the task isn't being taken in hand by someone who was close to Maz and knew her wishes. Still waiting to hear.

Laura Heidy-Halberstein 09-07-2009 11:06 AM

I am so sorry to hear this. Maz was one of the first poets to welcome me to Eratosphere and always maintained a kindness and understanding towards all.

As for collecting her work - has anyone found out if perhaps she has a family member or friend whom she's entrusted with such a task? It seems almost presumptous to begin a project of that magnitude and importance without making sure she hadn't already made prior arrangements or vocalized her own wishes.

Rose Kelleher 09-07-2009 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Juster
She was an obvious talent, but you also couldn't help feeling she had a decency beneath it all

Exactly.

She could be tough, in her upright English way, and she wasn't afraid to ruffle feathers. But she once mentioned casually that when bees get exhausted, you can revive them with a spoonful of sugar water. I was like, who the hell spoonfeeds bees???

And the fact is, if she ruffled your feathers, you probably needed it. She disliked pomp and pretension and anything that smacked of hypocrisy. That's what made her such a good satirist.

MEHope 09-07-2009 11:22 AM

Maz was a guest at Poets.org last year, http://www.poets.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16688

Clive 09-07-2009 11:38 AM

Dear old Maz! Back in the day, I helped her edit an edition of an online magazine. I wondered why I hadn't seen her round and about since my return to online po-boards. What a dreadful shame.

Maryann Corbett 09-07-2009 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laura Heidy-Halberstein (Post 122449)
It seems almost presumptuous to begin a project of that magnitude and importance without making sure she hadn't already made prior arrangements or vocalized her own wishes.

Yes, it would be that. Nothing is being done yet; everything depends on hearing from people who might know what she herself wished.

Adam Elgar 09-07-2009 12:31 PM

It's awful, too awful.
Besides being a vivid and delightful presence on the web - one of those people who makes it human - Maz was a far, far better poet than almost all those who get into print in the UK. She was the real thing, in every sense.
This hurts badly.

A collection of her work would be a real treasure. I do hope it can be done.


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