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Rory Waterman 05-04-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by John Whitworth (Post 196964)
You may well be right, Rory. But we can still hang Blair and Brown, can't we? Pretty please.

Oh go on, then.

Rory Waterman 05-04-2011 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Maryann Corbett (Post 196640)
At least three different friends have quoted this passage in today's context:

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. [...]"
--Martin Luther King, Jr.

It turns out that King never actually said this. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13265368

Maryann Corbett 05-04-2011 11:15 AM

Or rather, that he said part of it, and not the part that connects best to the circumstances.

Apologies for my having gotten caught up in a viral phenomenon, but not for my sentiments about celebration as a response to the event.

Rory Waterman 05-04-2011 11:34 AM

Apparently, a 24-year-old ESL teacher in Japan combined her sentiments on the situation with her favourite MLK quotation, almost everyone (including all of us) didn't see it was a cut-and-shut, and it rolled all over the world in less than a day. Wow.

I agree with your sentiments. And the Japanese teacher's.

W.F. Lantry 05-04-2011 11:51 AM

Meanwhile, in West Virginia...

(Having just six weeks ago been in West Virginia, and met some truly lovely, admirable people, I need to add that they're not all like this there!)

Thanks,

Bill

Jerome Betts 05-04-2011 11:53 AM

Of our three main parties only the Lib Dems opposed it, and I feel quite justified in saying that they might have had other motivations. (R.Waterman)

Such as?

Roger Slater 05-04-2011 12:11 PM

It seems that even the Dalai Lama may be cool with the killing of Bin Laden.

Rory Waterman 05-04-2011 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerome Betts (Post 197003)
Of our three main parties only the Lib Dems opposed it, and I feel quite justified in saying that they might have had other motivations. (R.Waterman)

Such as?

The Great British Popularity Contest. Most of the public were against involvement in the illegal war, and so were most of our politicians, probably; but the Lib Dems didn't have to worry about anything beyond rhetoric because they stood no chance of getting elected into government. And their popularity grew a fair bit at the time, too.

And look at them now: dazzling beacons of how to uphold election promises.

Jayne Osborn 05-04-2011 04:57 PM

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But this is America, after all, so it's time for merchandise!
And Bill, as well as T-shirts it never takes long for the jokes to start doing the rounds. I've received two so far:

Elton John has decided to release a tribute song to Osama Bin Laden. It's called "Sandals in the Bin".

There was shock in Pakistan at the news of his demise. Everyone knows you don't take bins out on a Bank Holiday.

(I'm only passing these on; I'm not contributing to any political debate!)

Siham Karami 05-05-2011 03:46 AM

I agree with much of what I've read here.
But it might be wise to recall that America (via Carter, Reagan & Gw Bush) made bin Laden and alQaeda who they were. For a good cause of course - to fight the Soviets. And later, certain parties wanted to have a little Gulf
War which brought thousands of US troops onto Saudi soil. Saudis being Wahhabis, a fundamentalist sect. Little conflict there which turned OBL's attention to America, his former backer. Oops.
So the US took out their own Frankenstein. Just like another Frankenstein, Saddam Hussein.
Of course, it would have been better to bring him to justice alive, but I don't see how that could have been done realistically given the hype, the fear, and the fact he was in Pakistan.
It's good he's gone too. Hopefully it will speed up the lesson that terrorism is a failed strategy.


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