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Jean L. Kreiling 06-02-2014 08:05 AM

The Ghazal Page
 
"Guzzle," anyone? (I'm told that's the correct pronunciation.) This very old Middle Eastern form was new to me not so long ago, and this website supports it in a big way. I'm pleased that three of my efforts appear in the June issue, which will unfortunately be among its last. (So submit now!!!)

http://www.ghazalpage.net/2014/index.html

Janice D. Soderling 06-02-2014 08:59 AM

Good on ya, Jean. It has been announced on these S. pages, and I am so sad it is going.

I'll read your ghazels a.s.a.p. Looking forward to them.

Mary Cresswell 12-10-2014 10:37 PM

The December issue of The Ghazal Page is now online. http://www.ghazalpage.net/2014/

Sad to say, it is the last issue of a very interesting journal.

The website will be available until early next year, according to the editor - but ... aren't there archive websites that will keep it available after that? I don't know any names, but I am sure they exist.

Esther Murer 01-10-2015 06:17 PM

Does the Wayback Machine still archive stuff?
I have urged Gene to find a way to archive it, but I guess he's just out of steam and no one seems to have come forward to take it over, so.

Maryann Corbett 01-10-2015 06:22 PM

I've run a search at The Internet Archive (the Wayback Machine) on the URL. I'm going to try to link to the results; let's see if this works.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.ghazalpage.net

It's not everything, but it's something.

Esther Murer 01-11-2015 08:05 AM

It works! Thanks! I'll tell Gene.

The Ghazal Page certainly expanded my horizons with its explorations of varieties of the classical ghazal, and the way Gene challenged us to push the boundaries of the form and explore what else could be done with it in English. The ghazal became one of my fallback forms for, say, when I get stuck during NaPo.

I don't know where "guzzle" comes from - I suppose Urdu, via Agha Shalid Ali. My son, who knows Farsi and Arabic, says that in Farsi its sort of RrraZAHL (he hears the initial consonant as a velar French "r"; my guess is that it's more the voiced equivalent of German "ch" (Dutch "gh"). Anyway, he says Arabic is the same but with the stress on the first syllable. So (except for one I wrote called "Chocolate guzzle") I'm going with Gha-ZAL.

Esther

Mary Cresswell 01-18-2015 06:44 PM

Gene Doty - Ghazal Page editor
 
This is to let you know the sad news that Gene Doty has passed on. I had an email from one of his children. He had been ill for a year or so, I know.

Martin Rocek 01-18-2015 10:42 PM

Actually, I talked to an Egyptian friend of mine, and what he told me about the pronunciation fits exactly what Esther wrote.

Siham Karami 01-18-2015 11:13 PM

So sad to hear of Gene Doty's passing. I always loved reading The Ghazal Page and didn't realize he was that ill. Definitely we'd like to do something to keep the archive. I imagine his family would like that.

On a side note in reference to pronunciation issues, I can't speak for the Farsi, but in Arabic, ghaZAL (where zal rhymes with pal) means gazelle or deer, and GHAzzle or GHUZzle means "flirtation." I was told by Ghazal Expert Mary Meriam that the proper meaning is the latter. Also, although the form popularized now is considered Persian in origin, the terminology sounds very Arabic to me: "sher" (pronounced more gutturally in Arabic) means "poem" for example. So I guess it relates to both traditions which in turn are related.

And finally, congrats, Jean, on your excellent ghazals which I enjoyed! And to all the fine contributors. May they enter perpetuity one way or another.

Siham

Esther Murer 01-19-2015 07:44 AM

So sorry to hear about Gene. When it's time to lay it down.... Oh, my.

Janice D. Soderling 01-20-2015 08:42 PM

I am sad to read the news about Gene Doty. I followed his page for a long time, though I never got up the nerve to send anything.

Thanks Mary for posting here.

Terese Coe 01-20-2015 09:02 PM

Charming, Jean! Kudos!

Mary Cresswell 07-01-2015 04:09 PM

Ghazal Page is back
 
http://ghazalpage.com

edited by Holly Jensen - a huge issue, and all sorts of exciting things

Jean Syed 07-01-2015 05:59 PM

Janice, Siham and I are in the online edition.

Janice D. Soderling 07-01-2015 06:11 PM

And other Sphere members as well: Toni Clark, Jean Kreiling, Esther Murer, and Barbara Lydecker Crane. And Mary Cresswell as well--thanks for posting.

Warm welcome to Eratosphere, Jean Syed! Looking forward to seeing more fine work from you here and elsewhere.

Mary Cresswell 02-16-2016 06:38 PM

Ghazal Page re-open now Feb 2016
 
Quote from the website, which is now open with Ghazal Page #58

www.ghazalpage.com

Enjoy poems lush with romance, sex, loss and longing, faith, and politics (bankers, veterans, refugees, exiles, and drones all make appearances)... Issue 58 also revels in the beauty of art. Yousuf bin Mohammad evokes Agha Shahid Ali, Jean L. Kreiling talks Steinbeck, and Esther Greenleaf Murer takes John Ashbery's lead-- meanwhile, Anne Pitkin celebrates song and dance, and Beatriz F. Fernandez and William Dennis muse on paintings, both classical and contemporary.
Alongside exceptional, original Persian ghazals, you'll also find qasida, tercets, free verse ghazals from Ann Howells, Sunil Uniyal's translation of Mir Taqi Mir, and delightful experimental approaches from Jan Zlotnik Schmidt, Karla Linn Merrifield, Huma Azeem, and Alexander Tokarev.
Holly Jensen, Editor

Siham Karami 02-17-2016 12:44 AM

Ah yes, this is an old thread, but why not update it? In this new issue, besides those mentioned above, Seree Zohar and myself also have ghazals there. Plus many other fine writers who are not Spherians, and someone I may have missed... It's a spectacular issue again and well worth checking out.


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