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Nick McRae 01-01-2025 06:28 AM

One Day We'll Miss This
 
One Day We'll Miss This

Our maple stands tall in the autumn sun
Two boys stumble through the yard
Their screams, their cry, iridescent
Yellow leaves and the scent of a freshly
washed child, passing down the hall

Our maple will add twenty more rings
And they'll flee with the moon tide
Shadows falling on a burning lawn
A shovel twisting in the winter thaw
The echo of shoes, footprints

Our maple stands tall in the morning sun
Shadows dance on our winding street

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Inspired by John Riley's Behind the Screen

Glenn Wright 01-01-2025 09:21 PM

Hi, Nick

I read this as a meditation on time and our perception of it.
The maple has changed very little over the twenty years during which the N’s children grew up, and represents the cyclic/seasonal view of time in which everything happens again and again in an eternal now. The N presents a linear/progressive view of time in which one is always in motion from past to future and can never grasp the present now. I read the shadows as the memories that the N thinks of as his life. They are meaningless to the maple but of supreme importance to the N.

I like the simple structure and clear, direct language. I wondered about “iridescent” and wasn’t sure what to make of the burning lawn, but otherwise felt well guided through the poem.

Glenn

Phil Wood 01-02-2025 01:17 AM

Muchly enjoyed Nick. I read 'burning' in regard to the fallen leaves and connected the 'iridescent' cry of the children to the transient foliage. I feel L10 ,an echo of Eliot, is a more haunting 'closure' than the present explanation.

Phil

Rick Mullin 01-02-2025 11:10 AM

Hi Nick,

I like this a lot. The lack of punctuation--mostly periods at the end of what seem complete sentences, as there are commas--doesn't impede the flow. In fact, it enhances the flow of images, which is pretty much the engine of the poem.

I like the burning lawn line as well. And the shovel twisting in the winter thaw especially

One minor hitch is "they'll", S2L2, which refers to the children. The subject of the "sentence" is the maple tree. This hitch is more pronounced because of the stanza break, I think. But it's not a big problem given the flow thing going on.

Rick

John Riley 01-02-2025 12:19 PM

Not much more for me to say that hasn’t been said. I’m proud my poem was an inspiration.

Nick McRae 01-02-2025 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Wright (Post 503162)
Hi, Nick

I read this as a meditation on time and our perception of it.
The maple has changed very little over the twenty years during which the N’s children grew up, and represents the cyclic/seasonal view of time in which everything happens again and again in an eternal now. The N presents a linear/progressive view of time in which one is always in motion from past to future and can never grasp the present now. I read the shadows as the memories that the N thinks of as his life. They are meaningless to the maple but of supreme importance to the N.

I like the simple structure and clear, direct language. I wondered about “iridescent” and wasn’t sure what to make of the burning lawn, but otherwise felt well guided through the poem.

Glenn

Thanks Glenn,

I'm not too sure what to make of the burning lawn either, I guess it's another of those liked the feel of it phrases.

I appreciate hearing your interpretation of the poem. Mostly I was hoping to evoke the feeling that I got from John's poem. Which was a looming sense of my boys slipping through my fingers. A few years ago we were new parents, in the baby stage, and they're still young, but more recently we've woken up to where it's all going. And the years are slipping by far too quickly.

Thanks again

Nick McRae 01-02-2025 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Wood (Post 503164)
Muchly enjoyed Nick. I read 'burning' in regard to the fallen leaves and connected the 'iridescent' cry of the children to the transient foliage. I feel L8, an echo of Eliot, is a more haunting 'closure' than the present explanation.

Phil

I appreciate the suggestions and thoughts, I'll have to give some thought to switching up the close.

Nick McRae 01-02-2025 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Mullin (Post 503182)
Hi Nick,

I like this a lot. The lack of punctuation--mostly periods at the end of what seem complete sentences, as there are commas--doesn't impede the flow. In fact, it enhances the flow of images, which is pretty much the engine of the poem.

I like the burning lawn line as well. And the shovel twisting in the winter thaw especially

One minor hitch is "they'll", S2L2, which refers to the children. The subject of the "sentence" is the maple tree. This hitch is more pronounced because of the stanza break, I think. But it's not a big problem given the flow thing going on.

Rick

I appreciate the comments. I hadn't heard 'engine of the poem' used before, so thanks for that.

And I guess I'll typically use punctuation for that purpose, pacing the poem. In the one I posted last week I hoped to slow the reader down, in this one I like it a little more free-flowing. In general I don't like periods unless I'm trying to force a pause, otherwise they just feel too restrictive / pointless. I realize fully that I sound like a pedant.

Thanks again

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Riley (Post 503186)
Not much more for me to say that hasn’t been said. I’m proud my poem was an inspiration.

Thanks again, I really enjoyed that one.

Phil Wood 01-02-2025 09:55 PM

Hi Nick,
Just to clarify, my suggestion was to cut L11-12. This avoids the repetition of 'shadows' and the familiar phrase 'shadows dancing'.

Phil

Nick McRae 01-03-2025 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Wood (Post 503197)
Hi Nick,
Just to clarify, my suggestion was to cut L11-12. This avoids the repetition of 'shadows' and the familiar phrase 'shadows dancing'.

Phil

Thanks for coming back to this. I see what you mean, it does read a little more cleanly without the final two lines. I do find the content of them integral to the poem, but I wonder if there's anything I can do there.

Thanks again

Trevor Conway 01-04-2025 11:42 AM

Hi Nick,

There were some nice ideas there, but I felt the poem needed some more striking images to raise it above a sense of the humdrum, and maybe a more striking title too.

I've added a few more specific comments below. I hope it's of some help.

All the best,

Trevor

One Day We'll Miss This

Our maple stands tall in the autumn sun [does it have any more interesting attributes than standing tall? Colours? Shapes? Some kind of humanlike impression it gives?]
Two boys stumble through the yard [Maybe "Our two boys"?]
Their screams, their cry, iridescent
Yellow leaves and the scent of a freshly
washed child, passing down the hall [I can't imagine the scent of a freshly washed child myself, but maybe that's just me. Passing down the hall also felt like it wasn't consistent with the outdoor scene I was imagining]

Our maple will add twenty more rings
And they'll flee with the moon tide [I don't really understand the idea of the rings fleeing with the moon tide]
Shadows falling on a burning lawn [The burning lawn is too enigmatic for me. I'm not sure how it belongs in the poem, unless you mean the leaves give the impression of fire. Maybe that's what you mean, and it's certainly a good image, but maybe it could be delivered a clearer away]
A shovel twisting in the winter thaw [I love the choice of the word "twisting" here. Perfect. It gives a nice, dynamic image]
The echo of shoes, footprints [This idea is less interesting, so I'd suggest replacing it with something more original and striking if possible]

Our maple stands tall in the morning sun
Shadows dance on our winding street

[Returning to the maple and the shadows again at the end gives an unsatisfying ending for me. Would you consider bringing the boys/children in again at the end?]

Nick McRae 01-04-2025 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevor Conway (Post 503225)
Hi Nick,

There were some nice ideas there, but I felt the poem needed some more striking images to raise it above a sense of the humdrum, and maybe a more striking title too.

I've added a few more specific comments below. I hope it's of some help.

All the best,

Trevor

One Day We'll Miss This

Our maple stands tall in the autumn sun [does it have any more interesting attributes than standing tall? Colours? Shapes? Some kind of humanlike impression it gives?]
Two boys stumble through the yard [Maybe "Our two boys"?]
Their screams, their cry, iridescent
Yellow leaves and the scent of a freshly
washed child, passing down the hall [I can't imagine the scent of a freshly washed child myself, but maybe that's just me. Passing down the hall also felt like it wasn't consistent with the outdoor scene I was imagining]

Our maple will add twenty more rings
And they'll flee with the moon tide [I don't really understand the idea of the rings fleeing with the moon tide]
Shadows falling on a burning lawn [The burning lawn is too enigmatic for me. I'm not sure how it belongs in the poem, unless you mean the leaves give the impression of fire. Maybe that's what you mean, and it's certainly a good image, but maybe it could be delivered a clearer away]
A shovel twisting in the winter thaw [I love the choice of the word "twisting" here. Perfect. It gives a nice, dynamic image]
The echo of shoes, footprints [This idea is less interesting, so I'd suggest replacing it with something more original and striking if possible]

Our maple stands tall in the morning sun
Shadows dance on our winding street

[Returning to the maple and the shadows again at the end gives an unsatisfying ending for me. Would you consider bringing the boys/children in again at the end?]

Thanks for the comments. I appreciate you mentioning what you have about imagery because it's a central point in how I approach my own poetry.

That is, I'm generally not trying to stun the reader with imagery, or have imagery be a central focal point of the poem. The hope is to include imagery and phrasing that supports the narrative or scene, even if that imagery doesn't necessarily blow the reader out of the water. The other side of this is that I'm a fairly introverted person in general and usually prefer to create a more subdued atmosphere. But then you get into a situation where some don't find the poem exciting enough, which is fair.

I see what you mean about the Maple line. Personally, I sometimes run into the difficulty of wanting to use language that's simple, not ostentatious, but which still supports the structure and narrative of the poem. At times I'm happy to lean on a little bit of cliche, as long as it's not too obvious and the rhythm of the line is satisfied.

With the 'rings' line and surrounding I think that demands a closer reading of the poem.

Thanks again for your comments, I really appreciate getting them from newcomers. Looking forward to reading some of your poems.

Trevor Conway 01-04-2025 01:00 PM

You're very welcome, Nick. Thanks for getting back on my points. Yes, a balance is definitely required when striking images are used. Too many can make a poem feel contrived/sickening to read.

Looking forward to reading more of your work too.

Trevor

Robin Neidhard 01-04-2025 04:36 PM

Hey Nick! I felt this poem as a mother to three children who are growing out of my grasp. I like how you portrayed this through the melancholy changing of the seasons with images of the ‘autumn sun’, ‘shadows falling’ and ‘winter thaw’.
Yet there’s hope as we see the ‘morning sun’ again. I agree that using shadows twice was repetitive, maybe another word can be used, but I appreciate the beauty of this poem. It touched me as a parent.

Nick McRae 01-04-2025 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin Neidhard (Post 503240)
Hey Nick! I felt this poem as a mother to three children who are growing out of my grasp. I like how you portrayed this through the melancholy changing of the seasons with images of the ‘autumn sun’, ‘shadows falling’ and ‘winter thaw’.
Yet there’s hope as we see the ‘morning sun’ again. I agree that using shadows twice was repetitive, maybe another word can be used, but I appreciate the beauty of this poem. It touched me as a parent.

Hi Robin, thanks for the comments and touching on the final lines again. It seems those may be a real problem for readers. Glad it resonated.

Harry Nicolas 03-11-2025 01:59 PM

Hi Nick, I like the imagery of the line “Their screams, their cry, iridescent”.I read this as a partner talking about a maple tree growing along with their children, as if it is one of their children. Their children will grow older and leave and move on but the maple tree will be a reminder for the memories that were made there so it is special.


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