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Duncan Gillies MacLaurin 09-08-2008 07:04 AM

What does OBAMA spell backwards?

James Wilk 09-08-2008 10:15 AM

It spells "amabo," the Latin future active indicative, first person singular verb meaning "I will love."

Jim

Anne Bryant-Hamon 09-08-2008 11:43 AM

Neat - I like it. Thanks for posting this Duncan. My youngest daughter is taking her first Latin course this year and she also loves Obama. I will tell her about this when she comes in from school this afternoon.

Anne

Chris Childers 09-08-2008 11:49 AM

Awesome. It's going on my verb conjugation quiz two periods from now.

Marion Shore 09-08-2008 12:08 PM

Nomen est omen.

Robert J. Clawson 09-08-2008 02:58 PM

Originally posted by James Wilk:

It spells "amabo," the Latin future active indicative, first person singular verb meaning "I will love."

Jim


Jim, I'm sold old that I was taught to use shall with first person singular and plural.

These days a politician is more likely to say, "I'm gonna love, baby, love."

Shameless


Anne Bryant-Hamon 09-08-2008 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marion Shore:
Nomen est omen.
Marion,

Does this mean "Name is an Omen?"

If so, I agree. I think 'Barack' means something like "I will bless". I think, as Oprah said, "he's the one". http://www.ablemuse.com/erato/ubbhtml/smile.gif

Maybe I should take Latin.

Anne


Robert Meyer 09-08-2008 10:14 PM

Yeah, and there's the rumor that occasionally comes up on the TSE-List that he used his middle initial because "T. Eliot" is "toilet" backwards.


Robert Meyer

James Wilk 09-10-2008 08:04 AM

"The things which I have here promised, I will perform."

"If I can help in any way, I will be very happy to do so."

--Quotes from Elizabeth II

But what does she know about "The Queen's English"?


Shall has been going the way of thence and thither, whence and whither, hence and hither for a very, very long time.

Peter Chipman 09-11-2008 05:27 AM

On the first-person singular "shall" vs. "will"--the pedant's rule is that "I shall X" expresses confident expectation ("I shall be nineteen years old next Tuesday") and "I will X" expresses the speaker's intention ("I will marry you, Throckmorton"). So Elizabeth's usage is correct.

For second and third persons, the rule is reversed. ("You shall not pass!" vs. "When you get to the end of the street you will see a yellow house.")

Janice D. Soderling 09-11-2008 05:58 AM

Quote:

the pedant's rule is that "I shall X" expresses confident expectation
Is there anyone here besides me who remembers Douglas MacArthur's famous "I shall return"? When I was a kid (out in the boondocks) it was common that people would substitute "I shall return" for a simple "I'll be back" and the standard retort was "OK, MacArthur".

For the younguns:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/macarth...cspeech02.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/macarth...cspeech03.html

I don't think he had a speechwriter with him.

James Wilk 09-11-2008 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peter Chipman:
On the first-person singular "shall" vs. "will"--the pedant's rule is that "I shall X" expresses confident expectation ("I shall be nineteen years old next Tuesday") and "I will X" expresses the speaker's intention ("I will marry you, Throckmorton"). So Elizabeth's usage is correct.

For second and third persons, the rule is reversed. ("You shall not pass!" vs. "When you get to the end of the street you will see a yellow house.")

Gosh, how then does one know that it's wrong to translate a single Latin word, devoid of any context to indicate confident expectation as opposed to intention, as "I will love"??

Robert J. Clawson 09-11-2008 09:47 PM

Originally posted by James Wilk:

"The things which I have here promised, I will perform."

"If I can help in any way, I will be very happy to do so."

--Quotes from Elizabeth II

But what does she know about "The Queen's English"?


As any politician, enough to speak as a commoner.

Shall has been going the way of thence and thither, whence and whither, hence and hither for a very, very long time.

I'm not that old!

Incidentally, James, as I listen to the Marconi, I find that very, very doesn't do it anymore. I frequently hear triples and quadruples. Not yet a full hand, but I predict a volley of five will be common before 2010.

Shameless


A. E. Stallings 09-13-2008 05:12 AM

Has anyone pointed out that Palin is Greek for Backwards?

James Wilk 09-13-2008 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by A. E. Stallings:
Has anyone pointed out that Palin is Greek for Backwards?

Why, so it is! It also means "again" as in Bush/Cheney all over again.

Jim

A. E. Stallings 09-13-2008 07:19 AM

indeed...

Duncan Gillies MacLaurin 09-13-2008 10:02 AM

Well, no Alicia, so I've now added this fact to MB's blog. I'll credit you for the info if you want. BTW I can reccommend her blog for a good mix of the classical and the contemporary.

Duncan


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