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Andrew Szilvasy 07-18-2018 01:18 PM

Exquisite Corpse 2
 
I had fun. Let's play again.





I crawled into her eye. What did I find?

Aaron Novick 07-18-2018 01:55 PM

Possibly corpses, possibly the grave

Mary Meriam 07-18-2018 09:14 PM

for if you do not find me, Lucasia, I shall go out of my mind

Martin Elster 07-18-2018 10:46 PM

indifferent to the cosmic microwave

Aaron Novick 07-19-2018 06:56 AM

Clatters and shatters beside the autoclave.

Andrew Szilvasy 07-19-2018 11:50 AM

Tear up You didn't understand; reformat


[imperative]

I did a cut-up generator of Matt's cut-up in the 'Twisted' thread.

Martin Elster 07-19-2018 12:23 PM

the shards of lab glass strewn across the doormat

Ann Drysdale 07-22-2018 11:09 AM

Upon which, desolate, the laureate lay

Edward Zuk 07-22-2018 01:33 PM

upon a white divan with Chardonnay

(I hope this is open to newcomers.)

Martin Elster 07-22-2018 01:39 PM

overnight caller, look the other way

Jim Moonan 07-22-2018 03:40 PM

x
The sidewalk heaves and cracks above the
root
x
x

Aaron Novick 07-22-2018 04:21 PM

around in sunlight, looking for the dark?

Martin Elster 07-22-2018 09:36 PM

The hooting sirens suddenly go mute

Andrew Szilvasy 07-23-2018 03:27 PM

with all the hallmarks of that jeune Jeanne d'Arc.

John Isbell 07-23-2018 04:00 PM

This is not a thread that lends itself aesthetically to non-players.

Cheers,
John

Jim Moonan 07-23-2018 06:37 PM

x
(To each his own -- except perhaps for John)
x

John Isbell 07-23-2018 07:02 PM

Now that's what I call a reply!

Ann Drysdale 07-24-2018 08:19 AM

He who, in Patmos, passed away in peace?

Edward Zuk 07-26-2018 02:12 AM

He smokes and somehow tries to carry on.

Aaron Novick 07-26-2018 08:00 AM

So here we are, mucking about in grease.



I think we've tied up all the rhymes --- call it here?

Jim Moonan 07-26-2018 08:02 AM

x
x

Yes
x
x

Aaron Novick 07-26-2018 09:29 AM

I crawled into her eye. What did I find?
Possibly corpses, possibly the grave
for if you do not find me, Lucasia, I shall go out of my mind
indifferent to the cosmic microwave
clatters and shatters beside the autoclave.
Tear up You didn't understand; reformat
the shards of lab glass strewn across the doormat
upon which, desolate, the laureate lay
upon a white divan with Chardonnay
overnight caller, look the other way
the sidewalk heaves and cracks above the root
around in sunlight, looking for the dark?
The hooting sirens suddenly go mute
with all the hallmarks of that jeune Jeanne d'Arc.
(To each his own -- except perhaps for John)
He who, in Patmos, passed away in peace?
He smokes and somehow tries to carry on.
So here we are, mucking about in grease.

Andrew Szilvasy 07-26-2018 09:46 AM

I quite like this one.

Jim: for "Tear up You didn't understand; reformat" I used a cut up generator of Matt's poem in your thread "Twisted." Thought we could get really meta with it.

Jim Moonan 07-26-2018 09:58 AM

Andrew, Ha! Yes, it occurs to me that there is a strong connection between the poetry that Exquisite Corpse produces and what found poetry achieves.

I like this exquisite corpse. It makes sense.

Jayne Osborn 07-26-2018 10:02 AM

''mucking about'' sums it up nicely.

OK, OK,... I'll butt out... I'm not participating so I'm really not entitled to an opinion, except that I can't help but express the opinion that this poem is nonsense.

Right, I promise I won't interfere again; I'll leave you all to your fun...:p :D ;)

Jayne

Andrew Szilvasy 07-26-2018 10:15 AM

Hi Jayne,

I think the value of a game like this isn't the poem it produces as a poem, though I do think this has love good moments in it (by definition accidentally created), but instead the surprising connections it makes help stir your own creativity.

There are whole poems that can come out of:

reformat
the shards of lab glass strewn across the doormat

or

desolate, the laureate lay
upon a white divan with Chardonnay

or, with some changed puncutation

To each his own -- except perhaps for John.
He who, in Patmos, passed away in peace?
He smokes and somehow tries to carry on.
So here we are, mucking about in grease.

If you think the game is to create a wonderful poem, you are of course going to be disappointed in the product. If you think about the game as an image or idea generator...well, I think you might find something redeeming.

Jayne Osborn 07-26-2018 10:36 AM

Hi Andrew,

Yes, I take your point... and I hope everyone realises that my comment above was made in fun, honestly!

The idea just doesn't float my boat, that's all. I could more easily understand a composite poem that gets written line by line in the same way as this, but visibly, so that a genuinely good poem might possibly emerge, as a group effort.

The randomness of these lines just takes me back to the time when a bunch of us in a writers' group entered the International Library of Poetry competition, or something like that... oh, maybe twenty years ago or more. We each threw in a line from one of our poems and submitted it to this vanity publishing outfit, just to see what they'd say. The assembled poem was gibberish, of course, but lo! and behold! we were a "finalist".

The finished Exquisite Corpse poem reminds me too much of the above, I'm afraid!

But as I said, I'll keep schtum about it from now on, cross my heart! :D

Jayne

Ann Drysdale 07-26-2018 12:00 PM

I was just sitting here with a quivering lower lip, sadly contemplating a plate of pissed-on chips when I realised that I am guilty, too.

Jayne, did you feel this discombobulated when I rang today and interrupted your games with the U3A to ask you to wave your wand over Jerusalem for me?

If so, I am truly sorry.

And just to prove how bad a person I am, I confess to playing a game like this with innocent primary school children in a classroom situation. We have cards, red ones with a single-syllable adjective, green ones and blue ones with single-syllable nouns (the blue being particularly easy-to-rhyme) and yellow ones with a two-syllable noun. They are many and random. Each child has a fistful.

Then we sing a song (to a tune from Oklahoma) -

You're as red as a green in a yellow
You're as red as a green in a blue
You're as red as a green in a yellow
And the last line is all down to YOU

Then I start picking on children and they start reading out cards of the right colour. We get stupid things:

You're as soft as a pig in a wardrobe
You're as brown as an ape in a tree
You're as warm as a heart in a handbag
(and then after lots of silly laughing, someone will do a line like...
And the last one's a nice thing to be.

Then they start looking at their cards and there's a lot of "Miss, Miss, Miss!" when they see they have one that's really good in the growing quatrain.

"Can we do another one, Miss?"

And then, if I've "played my cards right", someone will feel dissatisfied with an end result.

"In a carpet is silly, Miss - can we say on a carpet?"

"It would be really funny if it was a bee instead of a cork, Miss."

"Could we do the lines differently, Miss, because I've got a really good rhyme for muffin?"

"Can we cheat, Miss?"

And I tell them that poets cheat all the time and we call it editing - and then off they go, clipping and polishing and flying off at glorious tangents. I often go home at the end of a visit with armfuls of flipchart sheets and type and print and laminate all this wondrousness for them.

Am I really doing irreparable damage to their exquisite little corpses?
.

Jayne Osborn 07-26-2018 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ann Drysdale (Post 422110)
Jayne, did you feel this discombobulated when I rang today and interrupted your games with the U3A to ask you to wave your wand over Jerusalem for me?

If so, I am truly sorry.
.

Annie,...discombobulated??? Me??? Why, no, not in the least, my dear friend, and I'm truly sorry too, if I gave you that impression!

It was very noisy in my house (with laughter, I must add) with twenty people playing board games, and I've only just realised that I was looking at the wrong thread earlier (not the Jerusalem one - Duh!) so I've put the deadline date in the right one just now.

All is well, (and shhh..., I'm not supposed to be posting on this thread any more - I promised! ;))

Jayne

Michael Cantor 07-26-2018 02:26 PM

What Jayne said. And what Ann said about it being a great exercise for primary school children.

Ann Drysdale 07-26-2018 03:17 PM

Of course we made nonsense, just like the children did, but there is much to be gained by allowing ourselves the privilege of play. I rejoiced in revisiting all that juice and all that joy; I shall be sad to wash off the grease.

Andrew Szilvasy 07-26-2018 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Cantor (Post 422119)
What Jayne said. And what Ann said about it being a great exercise for primary school children.

Children don't write the best poems, but no poet without the soul of a child still somewhere in them writes good poems.

Aaron Novick 07-26-2018 05:07 PM

(that Nirvana album with the naked baby)

Jim Moonan 07-26-2018 07:56 PM

x
It's Mad Libs for metrical poetry. It's a game.

Now, if you want a real challenge, "find" poetry in it and post it over on Twisted thread.
x

Ann Drysdale 07-27-2018 10:34 AM

I just did.

Andrew Szilvasy 07-27-2018 10:58 AM

So did I.

.....................

Ann Drysdale 08-11-2018 12:36 PM

I took mine off the "twisted" thread and dropped it in The Deep End. It was treated seriously, workshopped honestly and is now a better poem.


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