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I Couldn't Resist.
http://www.aei.org/publication/refle...in-middlebury/
I wonder if we can have a reasonable and rational discussion about this? Is this what we want in our halls of higher learning? |
I should have mentioned in the OP:
This discussion is not about Charles Murray, who may or may not be a complete asshole. In my opinion, institutions of higher learning should be able to host ANY speaker, be it the ghost of Adolf Shitler, or even satan himself. Or God, Allah, Shiva, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, hell, even Maylo...or was it Mylo..Y...anni...piano...opolis, or something like that? If no-one goes to the speech: isn't that the best resistance? Nobody shows up! An empty hall for the asshole with the empty head? Isn't that terrifically better than what is described in the article I linked to? Here's hoping that this thread can be productive. |
The issue has been well parsed here:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...speech/530094/ The article does a good job of presenting the constitutional issues and showing how recent complaints about a purported lack of campus free speech too often seek to quash just that: the freedom to dissent, protest, argue, all of which are essential to our democracy. Of course, when a few Middlebury protesters resorted to violence, they were not expressing constitutionally-protected dissent; they just gave their enemies an easy way to dismiss their anti-racist message as violent thuggery. Their tactics backfired badly because they gave their rightwing critics the perfect tool to use in dismissing their concerns: an appeal to middle class fear. Here are some good paragraphs from the article: First, much of the social pressure that critics complain about is itself speech. When activists denounce Yiannopoulos as a racist or Murray as a white nationalist, they are exercising their own right to free expression. Likewise when students hold protests or marches, launch social media campaigns, circulate petitions, boycott lectures, demand the resignation of professors and administrators, or object to the invitation of controversial speakers. Even heckling, though rude and annoying, is a form of expression. |
Thanks for jumping in, Tony.
Great article. I would like to cite this para, as it's a bit more straight forward, and neatly condenses what I've been trying to say on the Sphere for several months: Quote:
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Yes, pressuring speakers to change their views or modify their language is most certainly a threat to free speech. Something tells me I'm not going to like the rest of the article... Alright, it didn't go foul like I thought it would. In fact, it states explicitly the very thing I've been trying to communicate on the Sphere in these political debates: Quote:
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I'm in a rush, but I wanted to stop by and say I agree with you, in principle. I know very little about Charles Murray, but the behaviour of those students was absolutely appalling. Not showing up to hear a speaker is one way of protesting quietly, but university students should be exposed to radical views, so better still would be for them to learn how to participate in a reasoned debate, and put their alternative opinions forward! They're supposed to be intelligent, and just shouting, screaming and being violent towards someone with whom they disagree is ludicrous. (Simplistic thoughts, I admit, but it's all I have time for!) Jayne |
What I thought worked well was the students at the historically black college who simply turned their backs this year on their graduation speaker, Betsy DeVos. Their president threatened them with not being awarded their degrees, which hardly encourages free speech. Few things are more non-violent than just turning around.
Cheers, John |
I think this piece (below) by the professor who was injured does a better job of getting to the point and observing that this is not happening in a vacuum. There is no outlet for the rage that is building in this society as the police, the State, and corporations enact a violence that is piling up bodies in cells and in morgues. Just look at the recent verdicts in almost every single police execution case. This is just a slight shimmering image of the sort of identity politics that actually runs the world, turning its back not on a professor speaking but on entire nations, whole classes, and racial subsets as well as most other species. Strange how violent and unnerving it looks when it comes from the margins instead of the badged, the uniformed, or the stock holder empowered.
A poorly organized protest and a lack of adequate self-criticism on the part of a good cause. Ok. But where is the anger coming from and what do you suppose should be done about the roots of that anger? Here is the injured prof's take below: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/13/o...sion.html?_r=1 |
Emitt,
The injured prof is playing innocent in that article when she complains that those who opposed Murray had not read him, and had come to false conclusions based on rumor. When you actually do read Murray's words, there is no doubt that he is a racist. The conclusion of The Bell Curve is that differences in IQ scores between African Americans, Caucasians and Asian Americans are to some extent a result of genetics, not just of environment, and the only question for him is to what extent. In brief, he's making an argument for racial (racist) superiority. He gets to those conclusions by using tainted, pseudoscientific sources: studies and surveys conducted by South African white supremacists and others associated with the white supremacist movement. In brief, he is an ugly charlatan who coats his foul racist views with a patina of "science" in order to give cover and comfort to the worst of us. For his sources, see: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1994...he-bell-curve/ For his hidden agenda, see: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...he-bell-curve/ For his racist conclusions in his own words, plus a discussion of his belief that women are inferior to men, see: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...charles-murray The question of whether such a con man should be given the academic imprimatur of an invited talk at Middlebury is a real one. It is not a question of his foul politics. It is a question of whether he has any academic credibility to begin with, if you believe The New York Review of Books, Scientific American, and The Southern Poverty Law Center. Having said that, I do think that Middlebury and other institutions should invite (reputable) speakers from across the political spectrum. It is good to have a full marketplace of ideas. Best, Tony |
You got the wrong address here if you read my post as soft on Murray. I think his work is junk. The prof was referring to the cadence calls, some of which were directed at Murray as homophobic. He apparently isn't. She was just rightly pointing out that stuff like that waters down the power of resistance as well as questioning the violence of the action.
I think what Bill is linking this whole discussion here to is his belief that a growing "regressive" left is taking over the campuses of the US and, in some strange relation he sees between this and the crimes of Stalin, that the Sphere is populated with "liberals" blind to the terror of the new identity-politic-addled youth. That is my read of Bill's concerns. He can freely correct me. I have been clear in my critique of these concerns. I though the letter from the injured prof. headed off some of the nonsense that had been made of the even on the internet. |
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