But Greg, that is the very point I'm disagreeing with. When someone says they're trying not to give offence to someone else, that "offence" is often defined by a particular political agenda, and quite often taken to ridiculous lengths. In Australia recently a biscuit-maker was forced by political correctness to withdraw the name "Creole Creams" from a biscuit product because the word "Creole" is supposed to have racially offensive connotations. Supposed by whom? It certainly doesn't for me, and for any Aussies I've heard opine on the matter. That's not what we used to call courtesy, and I don't think it comes from a desire for courtesy. It's someone imposing their own whacko agenda on someone else. Courtesy seems to have very little to do with it. The very good reason that the term "PC" DOES have negative connotations that so many manifestations of it are silly and, often, heedless of others' rights and beliefs. The term "political correctness" is self-evidently about politcal control. That's not courtesy, which I'm all in favour of. So many of the PC agitprops are patently discourteous.