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Unread 08-20-2005, 05:32 PM
Alder Ellis Alder Ellis is offline
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Hi Mark,

I think the Larkin is a good example of accentual dimeter. In accentual-syllabic meter there is a "rule" (plausibly based on practice) against having 3 unaccented syllables in a row -- one assumes the middle syllable will always be "promoted" to some extent. But here line 13 is clearly dimeter in context & so violates that rule; as perhaps do other lines in the poem:

LEG-of-mutton SLEEVES

some CAper a few STEPS

and of great SADness ALso

as if the NAME meant ONCE

I think in all 4 of these lines one is initially inclined to force the rhythm into a "legal" accentual-syllabic pattern:

leg-of-MUTon SLEEVES

some CAper a FEW steps

and of GREAT sadness ALso

as IF the name MEANT once

Nothing disprovable about these scansions, but I think the feeling of the lines comes across better the other way.

Anyway, a wonderful poem, wonderfully written.

The De La Mare, on the other hand, does seem metrically screwy to me. I have no problem with the trimeter short lines, but the long lines are hard to keep in a tetrameter rhythm. The very first line seems trimeter to me, for example. I guess I can see:

and he SMOTE upon the DOOR again a SEcond TIME

stood THRONGing the faint MOONbeams on the DARK STAIR

but it's too much of a stretch to come up with such readings in the flow of the poem. I see Henry has suggested on the other thread, "I suspect that the meter is more troublesome to some American ears." Yeah, that must be it...
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