What David Upson said so eloquently about the glasses!
This very thread is a refutation of its original premise, in that so many fine examples of these forms have been presented here. It's certainly a difficult form, and not to everyone's taste. On the other hand, isn't this a subjective matter? I think there is much to admire about successfully using their insistent repetition in a way that inextricably blends with the mood and content of the piece.
Seems to me summarily ordering poets to stop using these forms is reminiscent of the prejudice of the mainstream poetry community that proscribes writing any formal poetry whatsoever.
De gustibus...
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