David -
With regard to your plea for more seriosity when discussing the villanelle, it depends where one posts. General Talk tolerates - oh shit, encourages - a certain amount of fun and relaxation, and when a poster starts a villanelle thread with a comment like, "Oh fuck, here comes that line about the poet's father again," there is an excellent chance that some of us will get frivolous.
When a member starts more seriously - for example, Maryann Corbett, with the thread on submissions - the discussion is less bad-ass. But this one is Quincy's thread, for chrissakes!
Musing on Mastery is where it's at for the heavier, less irreverent discussions. Post a few villanelle there for discussion, and you'll get generally straight talk, or at leasat straighter talk. (Among other things, there's a reasonably well respected unwritten law that we don't post our own poems on Musing,, nor do we goof with spoofs.)
Michael
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