[R. Nemo Hill]

Apparently, Elise, you do not know how listen to any voice but your own, or you would not be able to repeat yourself over and over and over again like you do in the context of this and other threads. A discussion develops! Someone poses a question, someone responds, and then a response is made to that response. You, however, eschew response, and merely go back and repeat the question again (and again) (and again) (and again) (and again). That is not a response! That is not discussion! You have so little grasp of the basic art of conversation that I question why you even bother to engage in a public forum to begin with.

I don't think, like some others, that it is because you will only be satisfied with the positive response, or some sort of agreement. Event that seems beyond you. I think it must be simply that you are mesmerized by the sound of your own interrogative voice—a tone of voice which, after the fifth or sixth repeat, begins to sound like a numb whine rather than a sincere question. Are you perhaps addicted, psychologically, to being misunderstood?

If this discussion has become circular it is because you have not let it develop, even though you initiated it. You keep bringing it back round, by ludicrous repetition, to yourself and and your own self-imposed cluelessness, when indeed your initial question has already been explored numerous times and with great nuance by a great number of people. Roger is correct, it is rude to pay so little attention to what others spend so much time trying to say patiently in response to your relentlessly parroted question. Go on, repeat it again—I know you will.

It is better not to speak if you can't (or won't) hear.
Writing is as much about ear as it is about voice.

(exuent.)

Nemo