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Originally Posted by Charlie Southerland
I can't do anything about a God I can't see. I surely can't control Him if he exists.
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Charlie, my friend, you may need to deepen your thinking. All relations are meant to be reciprocal. No exceptions. That's the whole point of having covenants: they are agreements, as the lawyers say, between parties. And every phrase has a corollary. If "as above, so below" is true, then "as below, so above" must also be true. That's why we do the rituals so carefully. How we do them affects things in the other realm. It's not just earth that needs restoring.
That's why we try to rectify the world, it's why we write poems and build houses and measure our words carefully. Yes, things fall apart, constantly, the vessels break, over and over, and it's up to us to remake them, and put evil back in the containers. Even though we know they're going to break again. It's what we do. It's why we're here.
That's why I love the story of the Lamed Vavniks so much. Milton was wrong: poetry doesn't exist to justify the ways of God to man. It exists to give the Lamed Vavniks arguments and indisputable evidence.
And that's why it's so sad that you, Charlie, yes, you, personally, my friend, are so willing to justify, explain away, and ignore evil and evil collective actions. It undermines their case. If God gathered them together this morning, they'd have many good arguments for why he shouldn't just go ahead and destroy the world. But he might reply "Look how many do evil, and deny they're doing it! Look how many just try to explain it away! And look how sure of themselves they are as they do it!"
Do the Lamed Vavniks exist? It's a nice story, but who can say? Besides, what the hell do I know? But if they do, shouldn't we be trying to give them evidence to bolster their case?
Best,
Bill