[Charlie Southerland]

Janice, I clearly paid attention to what you said in post#71. I took it to heart and really was not being as flip as you posed in post#73.

You said: Science is about predictability of known fact that something else will happen and can measure the rightness or wrongness of that hypothesis, then it can be assumed as fact until disproved. I went with that. To my mind, the simplest explanation is the best one. Hence, my retort.

I don't own a Farmer's Almanac.(published continuously since 1792) A lot of farmers do though. They follow it religiously. They swear by it. It is their "Farmer's Bible." There isn't a whole lot of science to it, but there is a lot of experience to it gathered over hundreds of years. Would it be fair to say that it is a scientific book? Of course not. Is it accurate? Nope. But if you plant your potatoes by it I guarantee that 999 times out of a thousand, you'll have a successful tater patch. That's pretty damn scientific. No wait, I meant practical. There are many such examples in that little book.


When the meteorologist says it's gonna' be really cold. I dress for it.
When he says, "It's gonna' be really hot, I undress for it and get the sunscreen out and wear a hat.
When he says it's gonna' rain, I pack an umbrella.
You get the picture. He has a college degree, works with scientists, follows models, checks and double checks his information, yet, many times he is either outright wrong, or premature in his scientific predictions. In other words, he's fallible.

But you know what? I listen to him and act accordingly because he spares me hardship if I believe he's going to be right. That's practical.

So we come to hurricane forecasts based on American models and European models, which do yearly forecasts based on current weather patterns and historical patterns. For the past nine years— 3,420 days and counting, they have predicted 2 to 3 or more major hurricanes to hit the U.S. of A. In 3,420 days, not a single Major hurricane has come close to hitting us. You would think that a pattern has developed and that they would re-jigger their forecasts, but nope, it doesn't work that way. The scientists keep forecasting 2, to 3, to 5 major Atlantic hurricanes a year, scare the crap out of people, and when the scientists are wrong, no one says crap about it. And then, and then, when one major hurricane hits, the scientists beat their chests and say; '"See, we told you so." Those of us who live in the Midwest, South and Plains pay extreme attention to the weatherman when tornado weather is forecast. Or when major blizzards or ice storms are forecast. Sometimes they happen, sometimes they don't. The scientists have redundant systems and models to back them up, but they don't know for sure. Even if they did know for sure, they can't stop the weather from happening.

What irks me about the climatologists is they continually foster a state of fear for every season. Don't even get me started on earthquake forecasts and models.

I refuse to live in a continual state of fear and handwringing because of alarmists with less experience than a weatherman(or weathergirl) telling me that life is going to end if I/we don't give up our money to the government and East Anglia fabricators.

Some of you are being petty because we disagree, because I and 2.5 billion Christians basically agree with scripture that's been around awhile, way longer than your East Anglia Holy writ which has been debunked as a fabrication. I haven't called any of you names or refused to critique your work. I wouldn't stoop so low. You toss John aside when he departs from poetry into these discussions too. He is a well read, well published, well respected writer. Shame on you. You act like a bunch of high school kids. There is no excuse for it. None.