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Unread 06-27-2015, 11:06 AM
Matt Q Matt Q is offline
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Charlie,

I have lot time for teachings of Jesus: radical teachings of love, non-judgement and forgiveness -- wonderful, inspiring, stuff, that often seems lacking when Christians (or anyone else) make pronouncements on how other people live their lives. I'm less excited by some of the opinions of other New Testament writers, especially when they start getting all judgemental. Nonetheless, the Timothy passage makes no mention of homosexuality or gay marriage. For it be relevant, phrases such as "evil desires" need to be connected in the reader's mind mind with homosexuality. If I believe homosexuality to be evil and wrong, I will see the passage as being about homosexuality, but if I don't, there's absolutely no reason to connect it to make the connection, and certainly no reason to see at as a prophecy relating gay marriage. Or am I missing something?

I did come across a line in 2nd Timothy (2:23) that I think we would all would do well to heed, myself included:

Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.

(To be clear, I'm not saying your argument specifically is foolish and stupid; I'm thinking more generally about how rarely a political/religious arguments on the Sphere is productive.)

All the best,

Matt
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