Apparently, Charlie, you - as well as Trump - need to be told that "torture" doesn't work to "save lives", American or otherwise. It also happens to be a serious crime in both your domestic and in international law. Its practice at Guantanamo and in the other US 'black sites' around the world has done much to blacken the name of the US and of the West and is very much a 'part of the problem'. It is a 'solution' to precisely nothing.
I still do not understand your 'hotdog' reference which appears to target people with an objection to pork. That sounds uncomfortably like an endorsement of religious/ethnic prejudice. Whether so or not, it certainly does little to enhance understanding of your point.
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