[Andrew Mandelbaum]

Just read the words of Camus's famous essay and shut up, Charlie. There available online in several places. Try to familiarize yourself with some small segment of what you condemn. You keep derailing any conversation on here that return to the stated opening of the thread. It is a Trump watch thread. Start a thread of the virtues of collaboration and the song of the Right. But the sociology lab is overwhelmed with your data at this point.

You don't have a clue about the people you are talking to and how many of us are intimately familiar with the workings of your sect. I was, in my own wrestling way, through kin and fellow travelers, inside the Evangelical church for three decades. Completely immersed in dialogue, children, music, struggles, theologies, all of the salt and blood and shame of it. You have no authority on this with me. The idea that the fool who continues in a broken equation is closer to it than someone trying to question its flaws is interesting nonsense. Yours is just one voice among many Christianities and the sure sign that it may not be a trustworthy one is the claim to dismiss all the others as the voice of orthodoxy.

Life is getting to busy just now for anymore of your barking. I am gonna stay with the parts of this thread that stay on point. Feel free to carry on in my stead. I think I am clear enough to let you fill in the rest of the blanks without me.