Thanks, Andrew, I'll watch the debate you linked to and get back to you. As it's Mother's Day, that won't be until much later in the day.
By the way, Horowitz did say a couple things I was actually surprised by. He has gone far more to the right since the book I read, that came out in 1998. I'll try to mention those things in my next post, later. I'm much more interested in Rubin, as he's younger and, from what I can see, very difficult to upset. Horowitz, judging by the vids I've looked at when he speaks on campus, is quick to indignation, whereas Rubin is extremely cool-headed.
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