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Unread 03-17-2021, 12:05 PM
Julie Steiner Julie Steiner is offline
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LOL, Matt!

Dave, I don't think that there's a monolithic White male perspective (despite my earlier post's phrasing implying otherwise), and I don't think we've already heard so many white White male voices that we don't need to hear any more.

But those voices certainly do get heard more than others, in most poetry venues. (I'll post the most recent VIDA Count at the end of this post, to illustrate the gender identity disparity in major American literary publications.)

And I am rather tired of hearing certain patterns and tropes presented by White male poets. Just as, presumably, you (and I) are also tired of certain patterns and tropes presented by trying-to-be-woke-and-not-always-succeeding White feminists like me.

It's like any other well-worn theme: The love poem. The cancer poem. The implicitly self-congratulatory poem about the magic of poetry-writing. The immigrant grandmother hagiography poem. The "my mostly-comfortable pandemic experience" poem. The angry feminist poem (which is, alas, the bulk of my poetic output, most of which I will never show to anyone because it so rarely rises above self-therapy and cliché).

So, too, the "I'm a White man, and I have something to say about racism" poem.

None of these genres are necessarily doomed to be mediocre. But the bar is definitely set a lot higher before they are considered great, or even good. "Make it new" and all that.

The latest VIDA Count:
https://infogram.com/2019-main-vida-...h7g6kwr139j6oy
FAQ about their methodology:
https://www.vidaweb.org/faq/

Last edited by Julie Steiner; 03-17-2021 at 12:11 PM.
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