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Good, solid counterarguments again, Mark. This weekend I'll reconsider some of of the points you raised.
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I'll read whatever you have to say with interest, Julie because you're always thought provoking. But I'm probably done here now. Not because I think I'm right about all this stuff, though. Often, when I make a statement my head says 'on the other hand' but if I expressed all those internal arguments my posts would be twice the length. God forbid. I'm already so far up on my high horse I can't see the ground. It's complex. Life is complex. I do think there are many who engage in the "culture war" as a kind of compulsive game, on both the right and the left.
Take care.