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Unread 12-27-2023, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Roger Slater View Post
And who is responsible for the Jewish genocide perpetrated by Hamas, which has repeatedly said that October 7th was just the beginning of their plans to wipe out an entire country and its population? And who is responsible for not releasing Jewish children whose parents were raped and killed before their eyes and who are now being held hostage in tunnels and being literally "branded" as prisoners by pressing their bodies up against burning hot tailpipes? Was that also Biden? I don't think so.

I'm not defending Israel's response, but it's worth noting that Israel's response is exactly what Hamas was hoping for and counting on. By viciously attacking Israel on October 7th, killing 1,200 and raping and mutilating women and children in the process, they were begging Israel to respond as it has done, so in that sense it is Hamas that is responsible for every death that has come out of the war they started. Hamas killed 1,200 Israelis, but is also responsible for having deliberately invited a response that killed the people they are pretending to defend (and which gullible people throughout the world believe they are defending).

I truly wish Israel hadn't taken the bait and responded as it did. But it was a fact that no one could have doubted that the October 7th attack would result in a massive Israeli response, leaving thousands dead, so perhaps you should take that into account when you are assigning blame.
I think this only makes sense if you ignore all of history before 2023. Israel's slow torturing of folk in the Gaza Strip has been very long indeed. Hamas, in my understanding, is the maniac, inhuman daemon of the oppressed forced to insanity.
Everywhere I look there seems to be side-taking: this group started the war: they are responsble for it, or this group did. In the video linked there is a moment where the two men attempt to discredit out of existence all allegations of rape by Hamas militants on Israeli women: not true atrocities, unlike the "true" coin of those carried out by Israel. It is always sickly fascinating to watch the ease with which some men on the "left" slip into a kind of contempt for women when they can find a reason for it. Why must we always seek to make one side more justified than the other? I guess because the alternative: a pit of slaughter where there is no "right" and no "wrong" is a hundred times darker a vision.

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