Fred, I think jazz fits under that whole alien aesthetics idea. You don't hear Bach hooting out strange chords in the middle of a tune. Many of the folks here seem more inclined towards Bachishness than Miles Davisity (in his more difficult periods) - at least poetically. I suppose if you tried to post one of your pieces on a site for language poetry they'd have your ass for being too coherent!
In any case, I like this discussion, though it appears, as any good CGW-tinged thread, to be wandering around a bit. But that's good too.
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