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Unread 03-22-2005, 02:17 AM
Kevin Andrew Murphy Kevin Andrew Murphy is offline
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Mark,

Thanks.

I've been studying the meter with a magnifying glass, and found a note in Babette Deutsch's Poetry Handbook which sheds some light on it: With tetrameter, too much of a middle caesura can send you to Sir Thopas-ville, as Chaucer pointed out. I've varied a number of the natural speaking pauses, but I still have only one word bridging the second and third feet, "amidst" in the Matchgirl stanza. I should have at least one trisyllabic word doing that somewhere.

But that's what study and feedback is for.

Glad you like the new stanza.

Henry,

Glad you like the new stanza as well. I worked hard on the sonics to get them to what I'd heard.

Janet,

Trying to work on the regularity. I think some of the trouble is the old echoes I was trying to tie into -- successfully, I think -- but not seen in much of anything these days save Hiawatha. However, I did turn up the reference to what else I was hearing in my head. I found an article on ancient Norse meters, and found the one I'd been keying into:

<h3 align="left">7. Hrynhendr h&aacute;ttr "flowing meter" </h3>
(derived from dr&oacute;ttkv&aelig;tt, and uses all
the dr&oacute;ttkv&aelig;tt rules with the addition of requiring
that the basic unit be extended from a three-stress, six-syllable line to
a four-stress, eight-syllable line.)
<h3 align="left">From a praise poem to King Magnus of Norway composed by Arn&oacute;r
Th&oacute;rdarson the Icelander ca. 1045 C.E.:</h3>

Ungan fr&aacute;k &thornik, ey&eth;ir, &thornr&oslash;ngva

ulfa gr&aacute;&eth;ar, &thorneira r&aacute;&eth;i;

skyldir stokk me&eth; sk&aelig;&eth;an &thornokka

skei&eth;arbrands fyr &thorn&eacute;r &oacute;r landi.
(Boyish you were, bane of, staying,

barest wolf-greed, men unruly;

helmsman ran with hostile thinking,

high-ship-front's, from you and country.)


Glad you liked it, and still polishing it.

Kevin
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