Lo, I think one of the things that initially attracts people in the west to haiku is their perception that it is a blank slate--the spaciousness you refer to. And if engaging with it simply as a form allows one to write fine poetry there is no need to get caught up in controversies over taxonomy. Who need concern themself as to whether the wonderful poems you quoted are technically haiku or not? The important thing, it seems to me, is to accept the gift they offer.
Lee
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