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Unread 10-12-2019, 04:05 PM
Mark McDonnell Mark McDonnell is offline
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It is entirely unsurprising that a movement devoted to reviving the religious right's anti-gay rhetoric from the 90s and early 00s, only now applied to trans folk, would be in bed with (and funded by) the religious right.

Hate's hate, even when its proponents call themselves "feminists" for the cultural cachet.
Hi Aaron,

It is tempting, and often with good reason, to blame the right for everything. But it does seem that a not insignificant strain of feminist thought is, for various reasons, uncomfortable with the idea of self-identifying transgender women being classed as 'real' women in the same full legal sense as those who were biologically born, and have lived all their lives, as women. You may not agree with them, I may not agree with them, but in their case it doesn't seem to be about right wing or religious bigotry and it seems simplistic to dismiss it as 'hate'. And if it is simply hate, what reasons do you see for it? The religious right had the 'justification' of scripture for their anti-gay rhetoric; what are the roots, in your view, of feminist 'hate' for trans people, if that's what it is?

I don't think the writers at the 'Trouble and Strife' website I linked to, an offshoot of the feminist journal of the same name formed in 1983, could be described as "calling themselves "feminists" for the cultural cache" and I doubt they are funded by the religious right.

https://www.troubleandstrife.org/new...re-killing-me/

Similarly, Julie Bindel, longtime feminist campaigner and 'co-founder of the law-reform group Justice for Women, which since 1991 has helped women who have been prosecuted for killing violent male partners'. (wikipedia)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Bindel

Or indeed Germaine Greer, author of The Female Eunuch and one of the most influential feminist voices of the 20th century.

Here's British comedian and writer Jo Brand trying to pour some oil on these troubled waters.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...greer-feminism
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