[Andrew Frisardi]

Thanks, Adam and Maryann. I appreciate the prompt response.
I can see that there could have been a misunderstanding and that Alex might have jumped the gun on that one. We all make mistakes, and especially in volatile situations. All kinds of things get said fast and done fast and it's not always the best words and deeds that come out of it.
Andrew

[Duncan Gillies MacLaurin]

Maryann wrote:

"Whatever Roger's purpose was initially, the Exile board is certainly being used as a place to express those dissenting opinions. I don't dispute the right of those who left to speak their minds there."

And should I take it from this, Maryann, that you do dispute the right of those who haven't left to speak their minds there?

Duncan

[Maryann Corbett]

Duncan, you should not.

[Martin Rocek]

Not that what I say matters much, but I think there should be no deletions of posts
or parts of posts by anyone other than the author, unless there is a plausible
possibility of legal liability for the site. The mods should be able to chide,
admonish, PM, to their hearts' content, lock threads that have become ad hom,
but delete--no. I have always assumed that GT was basically for venting in any
case--there are plenty of other fora at the Sphere for more focussed (and probably
more useful) discussions.

I also wonder why the mods need protection from criticism--should they be more
than, if you'll pardon both my attempt to leaven the discussion with levity and the
reference to Myles na gCopaleen, camping stoves between the sabers?

http://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com...6&postcount=30

Just my opinion,

Martin

[Shaun J. Russell]

Just a sub-point here, but at one of the pro-audio forums I moderated at a few years ago, our policy was to copy the contents of a message, PM those contents back to the author and explain why it was deleted...which would give the author the opportunity to self-edit, if they felt it necessary.

Obviously deletion should always be the LAST resort of a mod (especially on a poetry site, where ALL of the participants are people highly skilled at expressing themselves in words...), but some sign that a deletion isn't being taken lightly would take a little of the sting out of it.

[Roger Slater]

Originally Posted by Stephen Collington

In fact, I think he was right on the money. But that's just my opinion.

Steve C.

Well, Steve, since I already stated that this was not the case, and I am the only one who knows for sure, I suppose you are pretty much calling me a liar. I know you didn't actually use the word "liar," but I was censored for things I did not say but which I was "interpreted" as having meant, and there's actually no logical way to interpret your comment except as having called me out as a liar.

But you have nothing to worry about. You are a moderator so you are allowed to call people liars with impunity. Were I to call you a liar, or even to say something that someone could purport to "interpret" as calling you a liar, my comment would be removed, in all likelihood without comment or notice.

By the way, as far as what's being said about this controversy over at Erato in Exile, I don't even know. I threw the "on" switch (for the reasons I stated) and then just let the thing run on its own. For all I know people are criticizing me there! I really should pop in and see if anyone needs to have a ruler taken to their knuckles, but I suppose I would have received complaints by now if any of the children were not getting along well.

[Kevin Greene]

Originally Posted by E. Shaun Russell

Just a sub-point here, but at one of the pro-audio forums I moderated at a few years ago, our policy was to copy the contents of a message, PM those contents back to the author and explain why it was deleted...which would give the author the opportunity to self-edit, if they felt it necessary.

I've had two posts deleted here on the Sphere--for other reasons, none of them disreputable, I might add--and that was the practice. I had no complaints as it was all done so nicely. In fact, I sometimes find that I am not always correct.

[Martin Rocek]

Kevin,
that's great to hear; the problem is that not everyone has been treated in the
fashion that you describe.

Martin

[Jan Iwaszkiewicz]

Posted by Stephen Collington

In fact, I think he was right on the money. But that's just my opinion.

Steve C.

Given the context I would think this to be more than a little ad hom Stephen.

Jan

[T.S. Kerrigan]

Irrelevant.