[Ann Drysdale]

No, John. It wasn't his day job. He was a salesman, but he must have been fairly good at it because Austin Macauley don't come cheap.

What was it that came out in 2003? This was published in hardback in 2016 and it doesn't have a cast and crew because it's a book.

[John Whitworth]

This is all very puzzling. Still, crap stays crap whatever its vintage. If it is published NOW then who are all these people? What happened to Theresa and Boris? Assassinated? Is Mitchell a Tory? Which Tory. What happened to Jeremy?

[Nigel Mace]

Well, John, that rather sums up the numbskull proclivities of the supporters of the 'Brexit' fiasco. Sub-'Gove', if such a being is possible.

Professor Dougan may have established himself as a leading authority on his subject, weighed internationally against rigorous academic standards of enquiry and discourse - but the 'Brexit' supporter's answer is neither to see nor listen to his arguments and to disparage, without evidence, his professional expertise. And that is pretty much how, spurred on by the most disreputable Press in the Western world, Britain has reached the present ridiculous position. However, if anyone wishes to see further into May's rigidly unreal position Dougan's analysis of her Lancaster House (Article 50) speech can be found here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhB-meWAmxI - and John can do the electronic equivalent of sticking his fingers in his ears with that as well.

For reasons which are a fundamental part of the EU's legal structure - reasons of which any signatory government must be aware - there cannot be the type of negotiation process, which, despite all evidence, the Tory government is claiming to be its intended 'strategy'. The election as a means to "strengthen the government's hand in the negotiations" is a simple and bare-faced fraud.

If May believes otherwise, she really is - in Nye Bevan's comment on Anthony Eden's dissimulation over Suez - "too stupid to be Prime Minister."

[John Whitworth]

Whatever she is, Nigel, she is Prime Minister. And will continue to be so for a very long time, wouldn't you say? As for Scotland, Scotland will stay in the UK. There will be no referendum until 2022 I believe.

The EU apparatchiks say the result of this election will make no difference, but of course it will. We will not pay their untold billions? How can they make us? I said before they have no way they can.

Ann, the thing I looked up is something else entirely. Forget it.

[Nigel Mace]

Bluster, John, nothing else. May and her party's problem, if they are back in government after June 8th, will be that they will have got there by lying on an industrial scale. There is a price for that in democracies and it will, even - perhaps particularly - in provincial England be exacted in 2022 at the latest. What do you imagine will be the reaction as the penny drops that Britain (or whatever the country is by then) has joined the illustrious company of - Mauritania, Palau, São Tomé and Principe, Somalia, South Sudan and East Timor - the only other states in the world not to be members of a regional trade agreement. Even North Korea has had more sense.

I note that you, at last, concede that there will be another Scottish independence referendum, but it and/or independence will come well before 2022. I reckon we'll be gone by 2020 and then you can have Theresa all to yourself, for Ireland may well have gone as well by that time.

[John Whitworth]

You mean when they are back in Government, don't you Nigel? You wish us ill, but you are a Scot, so it figures. We wish you nothing at all. You are free to do as you like. Of course you are. But most Scots have no desire for Independence.

And we, of course, are free to do as we like. And what we like is to be free of the fascist EU. You will kiss their bottoms, and much good it will do you. I don't understand your remarks about Ireland at all. Which bit do you mean. The Southern bit, already in thrall to the EU, or the Northern bit, which will stay with us.

[Andrew Mandelbaum]

"You wish us ill.
I don't understand your remarks.
I never listen to professors.
Whose going to win?
I don't understand you remarks."

John, you should just make these phrases of yours from this thread a sticky note on all your posts. It nails your approach exactly and saves time.

[John Whitworth]

whose going to win? Did I really say anything so illiterate? Or did you, Andrew. Incomprehensible and illiterate! Are you a secret professor of something?

[David Anthony]

Originally Posted by David Anthony

It seems that the popularity of the Scottish Nationalist Party peaked shortly before the Scottish independence referendum. In the subsequent Scottish parliamentary elections they failed to win a majority. I believe the early general election will be bad news for the SNP because the Scottish Conservative Party and unionism are resurgent. Sorry, Nigel.

Well, the local election results do seem to be bearing this out.

[John Whitworth]

Yes they do. Cheery little Ruth will do well against the Sturgeon who doesn't seem to have cracked a joke in her entire existence.

The big day will probably end with a Tory majority of over 200. Then will be the time to abolish the House of Lords in its present form and hang (metaphorically of course) the traitors within the party. And to take the Donald's hand should he stumble again.

What do we do about the EU and its drunken leader? Why, nothing at all except resist all attempts to steal our money. The collapse of their currency is imminent. As somebody said, it's a German plot and will go the way of other German plots.