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Unread 03-25-2020, 10:17 PM
Tim McGrath Tim McGrath is offline
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Let it die a natural death, instead of subjecting it to the firing squad. I'm glad it veered off into Dylan, even if it's the umpteenth Dylan thread.

I heard Paul Muldoon read at the Poetry Center in Chicago, and he talked about his collaboration with Warren Zevon. He said that on "Macgillycuddy's Reeks,' they wrote the first verse right away, but then it took them another month to get the second one right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tE-aZ1k-Oc

Here's a good essay on Muldoon.

https://www.nodepression.com/paul-muldoon-goes-rogue/

What the hell, man, let the thread go where it may.

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Unread 03-26-2020, 12:45 AM
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Aside from "Macgillycuddy's Reeks", the other song Muldoon co-wrote with Warren Zevon was the beautiful "My Ride's Here" - truly one of Zevon's great moments, with references to Shelley, Keats, Byron, Jesus and John Wayne, just to name a few. There's also a song on the same album called "Lord Byron's Luggage". I love how Zevon wove popular culture references into his songs - I've already mentioned the Einstein/Charlie Sheen line - on the same album there's a song called "Sacfricial Lambs" where he mentions Smokey and the Bandit, Saddam Hussein and Russell Crowe in the very same verse.

Sorry Jim, if we're talking about Zevon, I can't control my keyboard tapping.
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Unread 03-26-2020, 12:49 AM
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Fwiw, here's "My Ride's Here". A beautiful song, written with Muldoon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRkcBcyB7v4
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Unread 03-26-2020, 11:15 AM
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OK I’ll come back — for Warren Zevon...

In his short life Warren Zevon produced some amazingly powerful lyrics and music. I was going to give a link to his last appearance on the David Letterman Show (they were good friends — "“Dave is the best friend my music ever had”) but then I came across this documentary of his final months. It doesn’t get much better than this. (The gallows humor embedded in the Letterman interview is quintessential Zevon — “Don’t be fooled by cosmetics”)

If you don't have the time to watch the whole documentary (but you should find the time) here are two clips of his last appearance on the Letterman Show:

https://youtu.be/z7Mirkd3CT4

https://youtu.be/MqWqyjUsCAw

https://youtu.be/dIC4j6Rn9s4

https://youtu.be/I53v5HY3SHM
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Unread 03-27-2020, 12:31 PM
Tim McGrath Tim McGrath is offline
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I'm looking forward to the documentary, which I'll watch today, but first let me serve up the new Dylan song, "Murder Most Foul," an apocalyptic, kaleidoscopic, 17-minute epic that even has a subtle reference to Warren Zevon. It is a most timely gift for all the Dylanologists here.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/27/82241...rder-most-foul

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Unread 03-27-2020, 02:37 PM
James Brancheau James Brancheau is offline
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l have mixed feelings about Zevon. He tried so very hard, imo. I didn't believe him, I guess. Head over heart, maybe. My bias. But do like a handful of songs. I was sad about his passing and saw that Letterman interview when it happened.

Simon, you don't like Neil Young? My god, if it weren't for Trump, craziest thing I've heard today. I love the vulnerability in his voice. Tough, memorable guitar. I believe him.
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Unread 03-27-2020, 04:27 PM
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Neil Young is fine, just not my cup of meat. I never liked any of his other songs the way I liked "Helpless."

I know what you mean about believability, and I'll say this about Zevon. He is best known for his arch, funny songs like "Werewolves," "Excitable Boy," "Poor, Poor Pitiful Me," etc. And I LOVE those.

But seek out the sad love songs--"Mutineer" comes to mind just now, but there are many. He's even better in that mode and, to me, utterly believable--heart-breakingly so.
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Unread 03-27-2020, 04:56 PM
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Cup of meat? That's a lost opportunity for The Pixies, ha. I'll listen to Mutineer. Helpless is Neil Young, so I'm surprised you don't like more. Hurricane, another defining song. (Southern Man, and on...) I'm blown away by both. Then, I'm not absolutely sure I'm right, but this had to be his doing

https://youtu.be/TRE9vMBBe10
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Unread 03-27-2020, 05:13 PM
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So do we like that new Dylan song? I think it's great that he released it for free and gave us all 20 minutes' diversion in our captivity, but it doesn't seem like a great one to me--musically stodgy and lyrically clunky. I liked "Highlands" in 97 or so, which was about as long, but I haven't returned to "Tempest" after hearing it once (the song I mean, not the album, but "Duquesne Whistle" is the only song I can really remember off the album). I can't imagine choosing to play "Murder Most Foul" again when the option exists of listening to "Visions of Johanna" twice instead, but then it isn't fair to hold Dylan to the standard of his best songs.
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Unread 03-27-2020, 05:58 PM
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Never mind.

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