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Julie, I think Rilke intends that sentence as a sort of exclamation. He often has a sentence that starts out sounding like a question or exclamation, but by the time he gets to the end of the (usually long) sentence, he does not use an exclamation mark or question mark there. I think it is just part of his style.

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Hi. No problems. I do not think that Rilke should be accorded any more respect for trying to impersonate (particularly particularly in a lengthy poem) a world-class universally acknowledged genius such as Sappho was admitted to be, than say, really serious male scholars like M.L. West and Armand D'angour, who have worked on merely one or three line "restorations" of a possible "end" to Fragment 31. Do Translate Rilke fairly.

Great as Rilke very often was, he was emphatically not a woman nor an archaic Aeolic Greek aristocrat nor the inhabitant of the physical body of Sappho with Sappho's needs and obvious affections.
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Allen, as a translator, I am not Rilke's apologist. The most I can do is try to translate his poems accurately. It is not my role to judge him. Readers are free to draw whatever conclusions about Rilke they like.

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Susan, we are friends. I remember you well from West Chester. So I agree that you are not Rilkeís apologist nor have to be. I want to conclude my nonsense here with the observation that Rilke either did not know about the following, or more likely it seems to me, just didnít care about it because he had his own agenda:

107LP/53D / Cox 99

ἦρ' ἔτι παρθενίας ἐπιβάλλομαι;
/ Cox: Ἦῤ ἔτι παρθενίασ επιβάλλομαι;

Do I still long for maidenhood?

(Also translated in Powell)

Source: Apollonius

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