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Old 03-13-2018, 09:33 PM
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Michael,

I read the review when it came out and promptly bought her selected poems. So I must call that review a success--thanks!

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Old 03-13-2018, 11:02 PM
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I have been busier with reviews than I like to be, but have only one more in the hopper right now--an almost finished review of David Ferry's Aeneid translation that should be out in late April.
What is your view of the Ferry Aeneid? I found I largely had to force myself through it. In a few places, his long-winded style captured it well—but only in a few. For the most part it just felt distended.

But, so far as I've found to date, I seem to be alone in this view.
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Aaron:

You're not alone. I accepted the request thinking I would like the translation because I like David Ferry's work generally (and I think the world of the man), but I was sorely disappointed for reasons I lay out with my usual pedantic detail. I do note that the Ahl translation is significantly worse & place the Ferry translation just slightly above the Fagles version.

It is a remarkable thing, IMO, that the best available translations of the Aeneid and the Odyssey are both first-ever translations by women. I don't think their gender matters much, although there have been some over-the-top testosterone-driven versions. It's more that you have two brilliant, hard-working PhD's in classics (Sarah Ruden for the Aeneid & Emily Wilson for the Odyssey) who disciplined themselves to write in taut iambic pentameter--the best meter for mimicking the original text despite (because of?) the compression it requires.

I gather now that CRB won't be releasing its spring issue until June or so, but I'll let ya know when it goes online.

Mike

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Old 03-14-2018, 06:33 AM
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I agree—Ruden's Aeneid is easily my favorite (I've read Fagles, Mandelbaum, Fitzgerald, Lombardo, Ruden, and Ferry), and precisely because of its compression.

My problem with the Ferry can be quickly summarized: "Fortune comes to the aid of the audacious." It's heartening to know my opinion is shared by someone with the Latin to justify it.
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Old 03-14-2018, 08:31 AM
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Interesting opinions (off subject but, hey) on Odyssey and Aeneid translations. I've just read the TLS review of the Ferry and was underwhelmed by its chosen quotations.

My excitement in this field is to see the promised availability (April here in Scotland) of Peter Green's new Odyssey translation. I've waited ever since my grammar school-days, when I discovered his novels, for his versions and I hugely enjoyed his immensely clear, scholarly and largely rythmically effective (for me) Iliad when it came out three years ago. My one disappointment was the jarring invasion, from time to time, of infelicitous 'contemporary' language which sometimes deflated the vivid or turned the heroic mundane. Given his age, I had feared that 'his' Odyssey might escape us and the publication news, following so swiftly on from 'his' Iliad, is like a special blessing.
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Old 03-14-2018, 03:58 PM
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I'd take Wilson over Green, but I'll be interested to see what you & others think.

Enjoy!
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Old 03-14-2018, 06:27 PM
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Interesting, Michael. Do I gather that your comment means that Peter Green's Odyssey is already available to you in the States?

Could you illustrate your view with a comparative sample?... if that's not judged to be ultra vires this thread.
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I believe Green's Odyssey is coming out on Mar. 28, but there are probably some review copies out already.

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Old 03-15-2018, 05:13 AM
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I only have Green's Iliad. Apologies for being unclear..
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Old 03-15-2018, 12:52 PM
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A review the way reviews should be written. Thanks for this. Bought the book.
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