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Unread 02-10-2019, 10:34 PM
Aaron Poochigian Aaron Poochigian is offline
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Default "Haggis"/"Sages" Off-rhyme

I just off-rhymed "haggis" and "sages." Just thought that you should know.
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Unread 02-11-2019, 02:54 PM
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Oh really? Well, I just rhymed “edgy” with “Fiji.”
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Sages? The thinkers or the herbs?

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Are you absolutely sure the reader's head won't put "saggis" in his mouth? Do you not fear that he might think you have merely used an unusual word, beyond his ken, bow to your superior vocabulary and move on?

I ask as someone who often bases her own pronunciation of words on poetic representation in the works of formalists. Whoever has read "Julius Caesar" could never say "ConTROVVERsy" nor call the composer "PurCELL" when Dryden (who knew the man) scans it incontrovertibly "PURcell".

Bonjour, sagesse?
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I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere aggis and aggis hence:
Two menu options appeared and I --
I took what forbore to mystify
With its ovine innards components.
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And you're boasting? I once rhymed orange with Philadelphia, a much harder task.
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LOL, Chris & Roger.
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I trust this was to somewhat humorous effect. The first thing that came to mind on seeing that rhyme was a vulgar send-off along the lines of "Don't let your haggis saggis."
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My first thought at the time was that Aaron was doing a send-up William Carlos Williams, but I politely said nothing because his effort fell short of Kenneth Koch's.
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A Spherian once told me that the words mouses and houses don’t rhyme, because one has an S sound (mouses) and the other a Z sound (houzes). But I see poets do that quite often. And even though haggis and ages are, supposedly, a slant rhyme, the G in haggis is not the same as the J in ages. So is it really a true slant rhyme or an eye slant rhyme (because they both end with an S, but the latter is actually pronounced like a Z)?

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