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Unread 11-08-2019, 10:18 AM
Roger Slater Roger Slater is offline
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As dire as the situation is, Max, it's worth noting that there have been some signs that things might be turning around. The 2018 election, without which we'd have a Republican controlled House and all hope would be gone, turned out to be a pretty strong rebuke of Trump. The Virginia state house just turned blue for the first time in decades. Kentucky, which voted for Trump by 30 points, just elected a Democrat for governor against a candidate who framed the election in terms of loyalty to Trump. The polls show several Democratic contenders would easily defeat Trump. Trump's popularity, while still strong in his own party, is nonetheless showing signs of erosion. More than half the country favors impeachment, and just about half already favor removal. And things seem to be getting worse and worse for Trump. Yesterday he was forced to admit defrauding his charity and was ordered to pay $2 million and banned from acting as a fiduciary for another charity. And next week the live impeachment hearings begin, which is virtually guaranteed to be horrible for Trump's popularity even if it doesn't lead to removal.

Yes, one never knows, and there's still reason to be fearful. It's not over till it's over. But still, let's not be blind to the positive developments.
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Unread 11-08-2019, 10:41 AM
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As dire as the situation is, Max, it's worth noting that there have been some signs that things might be turning around.
I agree with you, RogerBob. I just want to avoid the mistake of assuming those positive signs mean the tide has turned, so our job is done. I realize that's not what you're suggesting.

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And next week the live impeachment hearings begin, which is virtually guaranteed to be horrible for Trump's popularity
One would think. But this is just the type of thing my complacency has been repeatedly wrong about.
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Unread 11-08-2019, 01:31 PM
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The choice shouldn't be between complacency and despair. There's a place for cautious hope in the middle.
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Unread 11-08-2019, 02:46 PM
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Never mind.

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Unread 11-08-2019, 04:23 PM
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Agreed, RogerBob. My argument against complacency is in no way an argument in favor of despair.

Anything can happen. As long as someone makes it happen.
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Unread 11-08-2019, 05:59 PM
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Unread 11-14-2019, 01:01 PM
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