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Old 10-11-2017, 05:03 PM
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Anyone who signed this letter has indicated a preference for sucking up to power over basic ethics and should not be trusted to edit a magazine, judge a contest, or grade a paper. They are scum, all of them, without exception.

https://www.jillbialosky.com/letter-of-support
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Old 10-11-2017, 05:45 PM
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Thanks for the link, Quincy.

I agree with you. I learned my lesson about plagiarism in 6th grade (in 1962) when I copied a lot of stuff from the World Book for a paper about Edison, and got busted.

How does she justify it at age 60, when she has had a long literary career? And how can all these literati support her?

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Old 10-11-2017, 06:14 PM
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I think it's largely a case of their showing us lowly ones who's really in charge here. The Deep State of Poetry, so to speak.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:39 PM
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Anyone who signed this letter has indicated a preference for sucking up to power over basic ethics and should not be trusted to edit a magazine, judge a contest, or grade a paper. They are scum, all of them, without exception.

https://www.jillbialosky.com/letter-of-support
Woof. There are a number of poets and prose writers (7-8?) who I've enjoyed more than a few poems in there. This makes me very sad for them.

Also, sorry, NY Times, this isn't something you should have run without a comment.
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Old 10-11-2017, 06:59 PM
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I got a nice encouraging note from one of those authors some time ago. Sad to see them on the list. And I agree, sad for the NYT to run this as is.
Quincy, I like your final clause "or grade a paper".

Cheers,
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Old 10-11-2017, 07:28 PM
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This was in the form of a letter to the editors to the NYTimes. The original article did have comments: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/b...rism.html?_r=0
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Old 10-11-2017, 07:46 PM
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Because of an editing error, an article on Sunday about a reviewer’s accusations of plagiarism in a memoir by the poet Jill Bialosky included an outdated description of the response by the book’s publisher, Atria Books, and its editor in chief, Peter Borland. It was not the case that Mr. Borland failed to respond to requests for comment. After a version of the article was published online Wednesday evening, Atria’s parent company, Simon & Schuster, made a statement on Thursday night: “Jill Bialosky is a highly regarded editor and author who, in ‘Poetry Will Save Your Life,’ has written a unique and critically acclaimed memoir. We stand by the book and are ready to work with the author to make any necessary corrections for future editions of the book.”
Again...this is bad.
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Old 10-11-2017, 07:52 PM
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"Poetry Will Save Your Life"

does not mean

"Plagiarism Will Save Your Ass"

Especially sad, as Norton has published many of my favorite Maine writers over the decades.
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Old 10-11-2017, 07:57 PM
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An appropriate quote from Wilson Mizner (18761933):
"When you steal from one author, it's plagiarism; if you steal from many, it's research."
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Old 10-12-2017, 04:05 PM
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The phrase "Emetic prose style" is wonderful.
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