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Old 02-23-2018, 01:15 AM
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Wow, that is a lot of echoes. Though the Celan is riveting on the page. I like the Rose Auslšnder as well - including the English translation nicely rendering goldner as Goldner. There's a range of good German poetry from the first half of the C20th, beyond Rilke, whom I compare to Yeats. I've just picked up bilingual editions of Trakl - The Last Gold of Expired Stars - and Benn - Impromptus, and am looking forward to them.

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John

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Old 02-23-2018, 09:23 AM
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Tony, sorry to send you down a rabbit hole, but it was darn fun, wasn't it?

And many thanks for the Portuguese. I can't with any honesty compare it with the German, but it has an element that the English translation doesn't. (But that's another conversation, isn't it?)

I have a number of questions about your poem, but I might ask them privately. (Unless you want me to put my ignorance on display!)
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Old 02-23-2018, 01:47 PM
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John,

Yes, it is an interesting time and esthetic. Trakl is one of my faves (I got turned onto him because James Wright loved him). He shows that you can have a narrative lyric that is filled with amazing, surreal images, and instead of confusing the narrative it makes it sublime, dreamlike and exciting.

Check this out: https://www.dreamsongs.com/Files/Trakl.pdf

Also: http://www.literaturnische.de/Trakl/english/texte-e.htm

Kevin, pm or email me!

Best, Tony
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:54 PM
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Hi Tony,

And thank you for posting the Trakl twenty poems. They are resonant and still in these English translations: quite lovely. I have a tribute to James Wright that I'll be posting sometime soon.

Cheers,
John
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Tony,
Thank you for the link to the Trakl poems in translation.
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