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Jacques Returns. Hurrah. (Lunch # 2)

For all those, and only that bunch
Who don’t cook, Jacques provides lunch.
Who heats Jacques’ noon meal
Is a question I feel
Left best to you. It’s a crunch.


Revision # 4b

For all those, and only for those
Who don’t sew at all, Taylor sews.
That his clothes just wear out,
Is, can one doubt,
Convenient for that, logic shows.


Revision # 4,14Jacques Returns. Hurrah.

For all those, and only that bunch,
Who don’t cook for themselves, Jacques provides lunch.
Who heats his noon meal
Is a question I feel
Left best to you. It’s a crunch.


Revision # 4,14Revision # 4a

For all those, and only for those,
Who don’t sew for themselves, Taylor sews.
That his clothes just wear out,
Is, can one doubt,
Convenient for that, logic shows.


Revision # 4,14

For all those exclusively, and only for those,
Who don’t sew for themselves, Taylor sews.
His shirts never tear
Or show any wear.
It’s convenient, if odd, I suppose.



Revision # 4

For all those, and only for those,
Who don’t sew for themselves, Taylor sews.
His shirts never tear
Or show any wear.
It’s convenient, if odd, I suppose.

Revision # 3

Chef Jacques cooks for all who are lazy,
And only for them. It gets hazy,
Since the info we lack
Is who cooks for Jacques
In this village where mealtime is crazy.


Revision # 2

Chef Jacques cooks for all who eat out,
And only for them, there’s no doubt.
What I can’t construe
Is exactly just who
Cooks for Jacques when he’s touring about.


Revision 1
Chef Jacques cooks for all who eat out,
And only for them, there’s no doubt.
What I can’t construe
Is exactly just who
Cooks for Jacques, who is stout.


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Chef Jacques cooks for all who don’t cook for themselves
And only for those who don’t cook for themselves.
What I can’t construe
Is just exactly who
Cooks for that gourmet who is Jacques.

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I wish it were, too.
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Fair enough, Simon.
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Revision posted.
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Hmmm. Be careful what you wish for, I guess. It is funnier now and rhymes...
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Thanks. Iím sure it can be bettered.
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I don't get this. Is it about Jacques Pepin? He's not stout, though. I'm afraid this is going right over my head.
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Rogerbob, itís my beginnerís effort to do a non-sexist limerick variant on Bertrand Russellís ďSpanish BarberĒ paradox: "óEverybody in town shaves himself or is shaved by the barber, who shaves the barber?ó without the cop-out that the barber could be a woman. In a minute I will try to add more details on that item. Oops, I will have break off now. Will be back soon, after supper (my wife just called me to the table). Must go.
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óBut no one is eating out. Everyone's eating in.

A most peculiar limerick for most peculiar times.
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Well Jim, Simon, and Roger, Iím back. BTW revision #1 arose in real time, and wasnít prepared in advance. Hereís part of the Wikipedia article I was pulling up when I left :

This paradox is often incorrectly attributed to Bertrand Russell (e.g., by Martin Gardner in Aha!). It was suggested to Gardner as an alternative form of Russell's paradox, which Russell had devised to show that set theory as it was used by Georg Cantor and Gottlob Frege contained contradictions. However, Russell denied that the Barber's paradox was an instance of his own:

That contradiction [Russell's paradox] is extremely interesting. You can modify its form; some forms of modification are valid and some are not. I once had a form suggested to me which was not valid, namely the question whether the barber shaves himself or not. You can define the barber as "one who shaves all those, and those only, who do not shave themselves". The question is, does the barber shave himself? In this form the contradiction is not very difficult to solve. But in our previous form I think it is clear that you can only get around it by observing that the whole question [of] whether a class is or is not a member of itself is nonsense, i.e. that no class either is or is not a member of itself, and that it is not even true to say that, because the whole form of words is just noise without meaning.
ó Bertrand Russell, The Philosophy of Logical Atomism

Now, Iím still unsatisfied with revision # 1, and am going to revise further. Could people tell me what are some soft spots that others might see? I know this is a sub-genre and not up to Pow-Wow standards, but I love gnarly limericks, and do want to get this right so that itís clear enough and smooth enough to place it somewhere inane, or not inane. Iím working on it too.
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