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10-11-2017, 04:03 PM
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Anyone who signed this letter has indicated a preference for sucking up to power over basic ethics and should not be trusted to edit a magazine, judge a contest, or grade a paper. They are scum, all of them, without exception.
https://www.jillbialosky.com/letter-of-support
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10-11-2017, 04:45 PM
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Thanks for the link, Quincy.
I agree with you. I learned my lesson about plagiarism in 6th grade (in 1962) when I copied a lot of stuff from the World Book for a paper about Edison, and got busted.
How does she justify it at age 60, when she has had a long literary career? And how can all these literati support her?
Last edited by Douglas G. Brown; 10-11-2017 at 04:47 PM.
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10-11-2017, 05:14 PM
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I think it's largely a case of their showing us lowly ones who's really in charge here. The Deep State of Poetry, so to speak.
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10-11-2017, 05:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quincy Lehr
Anyone who signed this letter has indicated a preference for sucking up to power over basic ethics and should not be trusted to edit a magazine, judge a contest, or grade a paper. They are scum, all of them, without exception.
https://www.jillbialosky.com/letter-of-support
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Woof. There are a number of poets and prose writers (7-8?) who I've enjoyed more than a few poems in there. This makes me very sad for them.
Also, sorry, NY Times, this isn't something you should have run without a comment.
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10-11-2017, 05:59 PM
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I got a nice encouraging note from one of those authors some time ago. Sad to see them on the list. And I agree, sad for the NYT to run this as is.
Quincy, I like your final clause "or grade a paper".
Cheers,
John
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10-11-2017, 06:46 PM
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Correction: October 10, 2017
Because of an editing error, an article on Sunday about a reviewer’s accusations of plagiarism in a memoir by the poet Jill Bialosky included an outdated description of the response by the book’s publisher, Atria Books, and its editor in chief, Peter Borland. It was not the case that Mr. Borland failed to respond to requests for comment. After a version of the article was published online Wednesday evening, Atria’s parent company, Simon & Schuster, made a statement on Thursday night: “Jill Bialosky is a highly regarded editor and author who, in ‘Poetry Will Save Your Life,’ has written a unique and critically acclaimed memoir. We stand by the book and are ready to work with the author to make any necessary corrections for future editions of the book.”
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Again...this is bad.
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10-11-2017, 06:52 PM
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"Poetry Will Save Your Life"
does not mean
"Plagiarism Will Save Your Ass"
Especially sad, as Norton has published many of my favorite Maine writers over the decades.
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10-11-2017, 06:57 PM
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An appropriate quote from Wilson Mizner (1876–1933):
"When you steal from one author, it's plagiarism; if you steal from many, it's research." Richard
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10-12-2017, 03:05 PM
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The phrase "Emetic prose style" is wonderful.
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