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Mansur Al-Hallaj: O, Eternal One, tell me how You began.

Allah:

Mansur Al-Hallaj: O, Answerer, I understand. Your origin is the space between what is definite (al, “the”) and what can be named (lah, “god”), al lah. By closing that gap do we come to know You as You.


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urbane from Latin urbanus, “belonging to the city, citified, refined.” The city built a wall to guard against its antonyms: the uncouth, the uncultured. Soon even pilgrims ceased to plod its museums—the city’s name not recalled on maps, its route inaccessible and at the tip of the tongue, its famed wall suddenly useless around a metropolis protected by its inability to be expressed in a living language.


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In the Synagogue of the Logos, a rabbi interred the genizah containing sacred texts with His unutterable name. In a distant land, book grew out of Proto-Germanic bokiz, the beech tree. In burying what is unsayable, we allow it to take root and then tower over us.
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An abnihilization of the etym?
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Are they walls that fill interstices? Ore what?
Walls, walls, walls! What’s the ore for the trinitarian interstices?

Hmmm. . .

The Unknowable-Unutterable dwells within interstices? In the rifts between two walls? Between Urban and Unurban, Civilized and Savage. An Absence breeding Presence?

Can't say.
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Hi, Ralph. The poems are not related, although I can see the thread you've pulled out. They are just three entries of a longer series.
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Hey Walter.

The first and third entries demand thought and time. They resist a bit more than the earlier examples you posted. That isn't a problem at all. Just noting how I have read, especially the final piece,numerous times and still find things to rethink. The turn on the tree and the genizah as seed is pretty brilliant. I have been mucking about with a Golem poem for a while and this entry led me down some new avenues that I am grateful for. The whole work seems to be so potent so far.
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Thank you, Andrew, for taking the time. Yes, they are admittedly dense and not obvious but I think that is OK. I was wondering if readers would make the genizah/book/seed connection and I am glad you did.
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I read, I tried, I failed. I don't have enough knowledge to understand what is intended and what is intended seems to be the point. My failure.

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The first of these three made me laugh. I'm not sure that is the reaction you wanted but it seemed a perfect satire of dogma, if not belief.

The second also struck me as funny; a thing so smugly protected into irrelevance.

The third is fun to think about. It seems like a parable that maybe I don't quite get or, if I do, then may I don't quite endorse it beyond its value as entertaining nonsense. But it nags at me to read it again and to think about it.

I have also felt that way about passages from the Tao Te Ching, the value of which obviously remains quite undiminished by my opinion. I don't mean to seriously compare you with Lao Tzu.
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Thank you, Ron (and John).

One day I will read the Tao Te Ching, which I am always being told I should read. Humor is an acceptable reaction and I do think there is some humor in it, though mostly in the ironical use of Allah's 99 names. That it can be read differently is perfect.
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Walter, I wish this was shaped into a more conventional poetic form (though I know this is part of a larger manuscript that explores etymologies) I think it still holds together well and reads better. Something like this:


O, Eternal One, tell me how You began.

O, Answerer, I understand.
Your origin is the space between
what is definite (al, “the”) and what can be
named (lah, “god”), al lah.
By closing that gap do we come
to know You as You.

xxxxxxxxxx____

The city built a wall to guard against its antonyms
the uncouth, the uncultured. Soon even pilgrims ceased
to plod its museums—the city’s name not recalled on maps,
its route inaccessible and at the tip of the tongue,
its famed wall suddenly useless around a metropolis
protected by its inability to be expressed in a living language.

xxxxxxxxx_____

In the Synagogue of the Logos
a rabbi interred the genizah containing sacred texts
with His unutterable name.
In a distant land, book grew
out of Proto-Germanic bokiz, the beech tree.
In burying what is unsayable
we allow it to take root and then tower over us.


For me, the use of line breaks, etc. adds more meaning to the words.
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